| MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS OF THE HEALTH, SOCIAL SERVICES AND PUBLIC 
SAFETY COMMITTEEIN ROOM 135, PARLIAMENT BUILDINGS
 AT 2.00 PM ON WEDNESDAY, 6 SEPTEMBER 2000
 
 1. Chairman's Opening Remarks2. Cryptosporidium Outbreak
 3. Minutes of Last Meetiing
 4. Matters Arising
 5. Children Services
 6. Future Work Programme
 7. Initiating Primary Legislation
 8. DHSSPS Primary Legislation
 9. New Strategy for Public Health
 10. Any Other Business
 11. Date and Time of Next Meeting
 Present: Dr J Hendron (Chairman)Mr P Berry
 Mrs J Carson
 Mr T Gallagher (Deputy Chairman)
 Ms C Hanna
 Mr J Kelly
 Mr A McFarland
 Ms M McWilliams
 Ms S Ramsey
 Apologies: Mrs I Robinson In Attendance: Mr G Martin Mrs V ArttMr D Harkin Mrs K McFerran
 Mr J Ruane
  Dr Hendron took the Chair at 2.00 pm   Private Session 1. Chairman's Opening Remarks 
 
The Chairman welcomed Mrs Hanna back to the Committee after her recent illness. 
Mrs Hanna expressed her gratitude to all the members who had visited her and sent 
best wishes.
The Chairman also welcomed Mr Joseph Ruane, a health service management trainee 
who will be supporting the Committee staff during September.
All members were invited to a lunch at 1.00 pm on Tuesday, 12 September in 
the Private Dining Room, where Prof. Robert Stout of Queen's University's Dept 
of Geriatric Medicine will provide a briefing paper on the Care of the Elderly.
The Chairman advised that in light of the Committee's extensive workload ahead, 
additional meetings might have to be scheduled. The times will be rotated to take 
account of members' other Assembly commitments.  top   2. Cryptosporidiosis Outbreak: Briefing by Senior Departmental Officials 
 The Chairman welcomed to the meeting Principal Medical Officer Dr Elizabeth 
Mitchell and Mr Michael Daly of the Department, who spoke to a comprehensive briefing 
paper on the recent cryptosporidiosis outbreak that had been copied to the Committee. 
 Members expressed concern about the occurrence of the outbreak in the first 
instance and the delay in informing the public. The Committee was further alarmed 
to learn that the probable source of the problem was a septic tank from a private 
house, and questioned how this could have happened. 
Agreed: The Officials undertook to provide in writing the following: 
a professional view on whether new legislation is considered necessary to replace 
the existing statutory requirements relating to water supply; a consideration 
of whether the Department ought to have a role in planning permission with special 
reference to the siting of septic tanks near water supplies; and a copy of the 
final report from the EHSS Board detailing the underlying reasons for the outbreak. [The Chairman thanked the Officials and they left the meeting at 2.45 pm.] 
Agreed: The Committee agreed to issue an immediate press release highlighting 
its concerns and asking the Department and the Water Service to act swiftly to 
resolve the problem and offer every assistance in the interim to those affected. top   3. Minutes of the Last Meeting The minutes of the last meeting were agreed. top   4. Matters Arising 
 
The Department is still compiling its response to the Committee's paper on 
Targeting Social Need. A reminder has been issued.
 
The Assembly Research Unit is awaiting outstanding replies from two Departments 
on deprivation indices currently in use. A report for the Committee will be prepared 
as soon as possible. top   5. Children Services 
 
Agreed: The Committee agreed to the draft timetable for the inquiry 
and the proposed list of oral evidence witnesses.
 Agreed:  With regard to the Minister's letter of 31 July responding 
to the Committee on a number of its queries on children services, the Chairman 
will write to the Minister on two accounts: 
to seek details and assurances on the proposals for the introduction of parity 
legislation to cover the checking of the suitability of persons applying to work 
with children and;
to ascertain the composition of the Children Matter Task Force, its remit, 
time period, and whether it will examine costings.  top   6. Future Work Programme 
 
Agreed: The Committee agreed the draft future work programme.
Agreed:  The Clerk will schedule an additional closed meeting to allow 
members to apprise themselves of the major issues in relation to the reviews of 
both acute hospital services and primary care services. The Chairman urged members 
who had not already done so to familiarise themselves with the 'Fit for the Future: 
A New Approach' document as a useful starting point for their deliberations.
Agreed: The Clerk will commission an advisor to examine the Department's 
budget proposals in order to help inform the Committee's deliberations. The Clerk 
will write to the Office of the Permanent Secretary to invite the Minister to 
attend the Committee meetings on Wednesday, 27 September and Wednesday, 4 October 
in order to speak to the budget proposals and the position of residential care 
for children respectively.The Committee emphasised the importance of receiving a detailed breakdown of 
the budget figures. 
 [Mr Kelly left the meeting at 3.45 pm] top   7. Initiating Primary Legislation The Committee was concerned about the lack of clarity with regard to how Assembly 
Members or Committees can initiate legislation, as this is viewed as a key part 
of the Belfast Agreement. Agreed: The Chairman will raise the matter at the next liaison meeting 
of the Committee Chairpersons. The Clerk will also write to the Clerk of the Committee 
on Procedures with a view to formalising arrangements to facilitate the process. 
 top   8. DHSSPS Primary Legislation: Health and Social Services Bill and Adoption 
(Intercountry Aspects) Bill The Chairman explained that the two above-named pieces of primary legislation 
are likely to be referred for Committee Stage in October and November, and that 
this would necessitate extra meetings to meet the deadlines. The anticipated problem 
of the Departmental Committees' ability to comply with the 30-day rule has been 
referred to the Committee on Procedures. In light of the tight timescales involved, the Clerk highlighted the importance 
of members' bringing to his early attention any matters they feel warrant further 
investigation; this will allow time to arrange appropriate research and for the 
Committee to question expert witnesses before the actual Bill arrives. The Clerk will circulate a synopsis of the responses to the proposals for the 
Adoption Bill to the Committee once the deadline for submissions has passed. Full 
copies of all responses will be available.  top   9. New Strategy for Public Health Agreed: In view of the heavy work schedule, the Committee will await 
the consultation document on the New Strategy for Public Health due at the end 
of October before making its response.  top   10. AOB 
 
Some members expressed strong dissatisfaction with the fact that Northern Ireland 
was being referred to in official Departmental documents as the North of Ireland. 
The Chairman stated that he was aware of the sensitivities involved and undertook 
to write to the Minister to advise her of the concerns raised.
Mrs Carson announced her resignation from the Committee and thanked the Chairman 
and members for their time and co-operation. The UUP Chief Whip will advise the 
Clerk in writing. The Chairman thanked Mrs Carson for her commitment and expressed 
regret at her departure.
Agreed: The Clerk will arrange a buffet lunch with the local media health 
correspondents for an appropriate date. top   11. Date and Time of Next Meeting The next meeting will be at 2.00 pm on Wednesday, 13 September 2000 in Room 
135, Parliament Buildings. top  [The meeting ended at 4.25 pm.]   
 DR J HENDRONCOMMITTEE CHAIRMAN
 September 2000
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