Present: Initial Presiding Officer
Mr R Coulter
Mr J Fee
Mr F Molloy
Mr P Robinson MP
In the Chair: Initial Presiding Officer
In Attendance: Ms G Campbell, Mr T Evans, Mr Cosgrave
Ms L Benson and Mr N Johnston attended for part of the meeting.
Mr J Hamilton, Mr T Sexton and Mr D McCartney attended for agenda item 3.
Apologies: Mrs E Bell
1. The minutes of the 8 June meeting were accepted.
2. MATTERS ARISING
2.1 Catering and Functions Committee
Mr Evans updated Members on the Committee's recent visit to Westminster.
2.2 Pavarotti Concert
The Initial Presiding Officer updated Members on preparations for the Pavarotti
concert. It was agreed that Central Hall and the Long Gallery could be used
for corporate hospitality with the Members' Dining Room and balcony reserved
for Assembly Members. Mr Evans to check with the promoter about setting up a
ticket sales facility in Parliament Buildings. A note on the concert arrangements
to go out in the APN.
2.3 Crown Status
The Initial Presiding Officer has not received a reply from the Secretary
of State.
2.3 Industry and Parliament Trust
Members agreed that IPT can continue their consultation with Party Whips.
The Initial Presiding Officer referred to the International Association of Business
and Parliament lunch reception on 02 July.
2.4 Accommodation
The Initial Presiding Officer updated Members on progress with the implementation
of the new security pass system. Passes for all Members have been processed
but there has been a poor response from Party staff. It was agreed that a reminder
of the new pass arrangements should go in the APN and that new passes should
be issued from 30 June.
2.5 MPs and MEPs Access
Agreed to defer a decision until the Initial Presiding Officer has received
a substantive response from the Scottish Parliament and Welsh Assembly.
2.6 Fire Precautions Policy
It was agreed that there should be a test of the evacuation procedures, involving
Secretariat an Party staff, over the summer to be repeated with Members after
the recess. A draft Health and Safety policy was tabled for consideration and
clearance at the next meeting of the Commission.
2.7 SSRB / Membership of the Commission
The Initial Presiding Officer presented a proposal to address the proportionality
issue.
Y Each of the four major Parties to carry a
voting strength equivalent to the number of elected Members. This would not
preclude individual Members of the larger Parties from allocating their vote
to a Commission Member from another party, emphasising the principle that the
Commission's role is to serve the Assembly and not individual Parties.
Y In those instances when a Commission Member
is not present for a division the Member, by prior arrangement with the Speaker,
could indicate which Commission Member would carry their voting strength.
Y The smaller Parties, by prior arrangement
with the Speaker, would allocate their block vote to an individual Commission
Member. Again this would not preclude individual Members of smaller Parties
from allocating their vote to another Commission Member.
Y The proposal would not afford the smaller
Parties or individual Assembly Members advance notice of issues which will go
to a vote or allow them, for each division, to nominate which Commission Member
would carry their vote.
It was agreed that the Commission Members would discuss this proposal with
Party colleagues.
2.8 Meeting with Mr C Wilson
The Initial Presiding Officer tabled letters from Mr Wilson and Mr Roache
expressing their discontent about the non return of certain papers by the UKUP.
It was agreed that Mr Waddell would go back to Mr McCartney and, if the situation
is still not resolved, the Initial Presiding Officer agreed to speak to Mr McCartney.
2.9 Meeting with Mr Murphy
A copy of the Hansard of the Appropriation debate was tabled for comment at
the next meeting. Members generally content with Mr Murphy's input.
3. PENSION SCHEME
3.1 Mr Hamilton, DFP, introduced the draft Pensions Bill which had
been circulated in advance of the meeting. Mr Hamilton, Mr McCartney and Mr
Sexton replied to a number of questions from Commission Members on the detail
of the draft Bill. It was agreed that the Commission would need more time to
consider the Bill before coming back to Mr Hamilton with substantive and detailed
comments.
3.2 The Commission agreed that there were a number of issues which
needed to be resolved:
Y is it for the Commission or the Assembly to
appoint Trustees?
Y what will be the mechanism for introducing
the Bill to the Assembly, the Commission or the Minister or Finance; and
Y which Committee would take the Committee stage
of the Bill or would it be a Committee of the whole Assembly?
3.3 It was agreed that a separate meeting of the Commission and the
Shadow Trustees should be arranged during the Summer Recess to consider the
Pensions Bill in detail.
4. SOUND AND VISION CONTRACT
4.1 The Initial Presiding Officer updated Members on the advice provided
by GPA and the Departmental Solicitor's Office on the issues raised at the last
Commission meeting:
Y GPA has met with Michael Macmillan and agreed
that the existing contract can be extended for 6, 9 or 12 months;
Y the current tender remains valid even if the
installation element of the specification is removed; and
Y independent technical advice from the Central
Office of Information (COI) has been secured.
4.2 It was agreed that the technical assessment of the current sound
and vision equipment should happen immediately and the Head of GPA should be
asked to confirm in writing the advice at para 4.1 of the minutes.
4.3 The Initial Presiding Office informed Members that there was now
a satisfactory solution for the provision of sound and vision facilities in
the Senate Chamber.
5. SALARIES AND ALLOWANCES
5.1 Ms Benson took Members through the latest draft determination of
Salaries. It was agreed that Members would consider the draft and sign off at
the next meeting. The Initial Presiding Officer agreed to explore the issues
raised by the Departmental Solicitor's Office.
5.2 Ms Benson took Members through the draft determination of allowances.
There was a discussion on some of the difficulties with Members' mileage and
subsistence claims. The Commission agreed that a note should go out in the APN
advising Members to consult the Finance Office before incurring travel expenses
on Assembly Business. It was also agreed that the Commission would examine the
determination in detail shortly before it is brought forward as a resolution.
5.3 Draft guidance for Members on OCAs was tabled. It was agreed that
Members would discuss any concerns with Ms Benson.
5.4 Ms Benson tabled a paper on Financial Assistance for Political
Parties. Members agreed that a Party Allowance Scheme should be drafted on the
basis of the current arrangements uplifted by 2.5%.
5.5 Ms Benson presented the latest mock up of the Members' Handbook
cover. It was agreed that the motif should be smaller and the motif and text
centred.
6. COMMISSION
6.1 A paper on Commission priorities was tabled. Members agreed to
consider and discuss at the next Commission meeting with a view to identifying
issues to be resolved prior to the Summer Recess and work which will need to
be progressed over the summer period.
7. ANY OTHER BUSINESS
7.1 Two requests for Saturday tours (Mr J Wells and Mr E McGrady) were
granted. The Commission agreed that the Initial Presiding Officer would have
delegated authority to approve subsequent requests for Saturday tours.
7.2 Members agreed a proposal to provide wheelchairs in Parliament
Buildings. Appropriate training will need to be provided for the Doorkeeper
staff.
7.3 A request from the BBC to host a reception for the Commission was
turned down on the grounds that it might compromise the tender process for the
Sound and Vision Contract.
7.4 The following AOB items were deferred for consideration at the
next Commission meeting:
Y Summer Recess - opening hours.
Y Summer Recess - catering arrangements.
Y New Works - priority work to include conversion
of video conferencing room and basement room B6 into office accommodation.
Y Official Secrets Act - paper tabled at the
meeting for consideration.
TOM EVANS
8 June 1999 / Menu
/ 5 July 1999