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AD HOC COMMITTEE - The Committee was established following a resolution of the Northern Ireland Assembly on 22 January 2001:- "That this Assembly appoints an Ad Hoc Committee to consider the draft Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001 laid by the Secretary of State in accordance with section 85(4)(b) of the Northern Ireland Act 1998 and to submit a report to the Assembly by 12 March 2001. Composition: UUP 2 Quorum: The quorum shall be five. Procedure: The procedures of the Committee shall be such as the Committee shall determine." The membership of the Committee is as follows:- Mr George Savage (Chairperson)Mrs Eileen Bell (Deputy Chairperson) Mr Alex Attwood Mr Duncan Shipley Dalton Mr Billy Hutchinson Mr Roger Hutchinson Mr John Kelly Mr Alban Maginness Prof Monica McWilliams Mr Mick Murphy Mr Ian Paisley Jnr TABLE OF CONTENTS Committee's Consideration of the Draft Order and Key Recommendations Appendix 1 Minutes of Proceedings Appendix 2 Minutes of Evidence Appendix 4 List of Written Submissions to the Committee Appendix 5 Written Submissions to the Committee 1. The Secretary of State wrote to Lord Alderdice on 19 December 2000 referring the draft Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001 to the Assembly for its consideration and comments. As a result of this letter and a subsequent letter from the Northern Ireland Office the Assembly established an Ad Hoc Committee, on 22 January 2001, to consider the draft Order and submit a report to the Assembly by 12 March 2001. BACKGROUND 2. The Ad Hoc Committee held its first meeting on 29 January 2001, Mr George Savage was elected as Chairperson and Mrs Eileen Bell as Deputy Chairperson. The Committee agreed that all meetings would be held in public, not to have deputies, and that decisions requiring division would be determined by simple majority. The Minutes of Proceedings are in Appendix 1. 3. At the first meeting the Committee considered the draft Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001 and debated the purpose and changes to the legislation. The Committee agreed its overall approach, which is set out below. THE COMMITTEE'S APPROACH 4. The Committee decided, as a result of extremely tight deadlines, it would invite written and oral evidence from:
5. It was also decided to invite written evidence from the :
6. The Committee received 6 written submissions. 7. Representatives of the Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission and Probation Board for Northern Ireland appeared before the Committee, on 5 February 2001, to make presentations and answer questions about the provisions of the draft Order, Minutes of Evidence are given in Appendix 2. Both organisations agreed to forward supplementary information. At this meeting the Committee agreed to invite the Secretary of State and senior Northern Ireland Office officials to give oral evidence on the background to the draft Order. However, due to pre-existing diary commitments the Secretary of State and Northern Ireland Office officials were unable to accept the Committee's invitation. 8. A representative of the Queen's University of Belfast, Institute of Criminology and Criminal Justice appeared before the Committee on 6 February 2001 to make a presentation, in a personal capacity, and answer questions about the provisions of the draft Order. 9. A list of witnesses is included in Appendix 3. A list of organisations who submitted written evidence to the Committee is included in Appendix 4 and the written submissions are included in Appendix 5. COMMITTEE'S CONSIDERATION OF THE DRAFT ORDER 10. The Committee carried out an Article by Article consideration of the draft Order and Schedules on 12 February 2001. The Committee's key recommendations are included below each Article/Schedule. 11. Articles 1 and 2 deal with the title, commencement and interpretation of the draft proposed Order. The Committee had no objections to these Articles. 12. Article 3 requires the Secretary of State to appoint Life Sentence Review Commissioners (Article 3(1)). As far as is reasonably practicable, under Article 3(2) membership shall include:
The Secretary of State can refer to any matter connected to the release or recall of life sentence prisoners to the Commissioners for their advice (Article 3(3)). In fulfilling their functions, the Commissioners must have regard to the protection of the public; the prevention of further offences; and the rehabilitation of life sentence prisoners (Article 3(4)). The proposed membership requirements reflect those functions. Article 3(3) allows the Commissioners to make recommendations - for example on licensing conditions - in addition to their powers to direct release under Article 6. The Committee made a number of recommendations in relation to Article 3 and Schedule 1. First, it recommended that Article 3(1) be amended to include a statement that the Commissioners are to be independent of Government. Second, although it may not require any changes to the wording of Article 3, the Committee recommended that appointments, as Life Sentence Review Commissioners, should as far as possible be made through open competition. Third, it recommended that Article 3(4) be amended as follows to include two additional factors ((b) and (c)) for the Commissioners to take into account: "In discharging any functions under this Order the Commissioners shall have regard to - (a) the need to protect the public from serious harm from life prisoners; (b) the Convention rights of life prisoners; (c) any representations made by or on behalf of a victim or a member of his/her family; and (d) the desirability of - (i) preventing the commission by life prisoners of further offences; and (ii) securing the rehabilitation of life prisoners." In view of this recommendation, the Committee further recommended that the terms "the Convention rights" and "victim" be defined in an additional paragraph (7). Schedule 1 sets out the arrangements for the appointment of Commissioners. It describes their tenure, remuneration and allowances, and disqualification under the House of Commons Disqualification Act 1975. It provides for the Secretary of State to appoint a Chairman from among the Commissioners as well as providing the Commissioners with staff, premises and facilities. The Chairman is required to prepare an annual report at the end of each financial year and lay it before both Houses of Parliament. In relation to the arrangements set out in Schedule 1, the Committee recommended that, in order to comply fully with Article 6(1) of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), the Commissioners must have security of tenure to ensure their independence from Government. It therefore recommended that paragraph 2 of Schedule 1 be amended to provide for a fixed term appointment of five years. 13. Article 4 introduces Schedule 2 (the establishment of Commissioners' Procedure). Schedule 2 provides for the power of the Secretary of State to make Rules prescribing the procedure to be followed in relation to proceedings of the Commissioners. (These Rules are produced as a separate draft instrument.) The Rules include the powers of the Commissioners; arrangements for panels of Commissioners to hear cases; listing of cases; hearing procedure; rules on evidence; the withholding of information from the prisoner in certain circumstances; reports; timescales; and adjustments for recall cases. They also provide for the entitlement of the prisoner to a hearing of his case for release. Schedule 2 also makes provision for the supply of evidence and information to the Commissioners. It provides the Secretary of State with the power to exclude the prisoner and his representatives from proceedings in certain circumstances and for the Attorney General to appoint a person to independently represent the prisoner's interests. The Committee raised a number of concerns about Schedule 2 and the draft Life Sentence Commissioners' Rules 2001. The main concern related to paragraph 3(e) of Schedule 2 and Rule 15 of the draft Rules which make provision for evidence or information about a prisoner not to be disclosed by the Secretary of State to anyone other than a Commissioner. The Committee was of the view that these provisions might give rise to a violation of Article 6 of the ECHR. Although Rule 16 of the draft Rules (which provides for the appointment of Special Advocates) goes some way towards ameliorating the effects of non-disclosure to the prisoner, the Committee was not convinced that these arrangements as a whole are compatible with Article 6 of the ECHR. Accordingly, the Committee recommended that there should be a role for the Commissioners in deciding what information should be disclosed to the prisoner. This would entail a process whereby the Secretary of State would refer to the Commissioners for a decision on the extent to which certain information should be withheld from the prisoner. 14. Article 5 requires the Court to set a tariff period that it considers appropriate taking into account the seriousness of the offence or offences. The tariff will be an order of Court and will mark the period of the sentence which is deemed to satisfy the requirements of retribution and deterrence (Article 5(2)). When the seriousness of the offence or offences are such that a whole life tariff is appropriate the Court can order that the early release provisions shall not apply (Article 5(3)). Where such an offender is an adult, the Secretary of State has a discretionary power to refer the prisoner's case to the Commissioners for consideration at a stage he may judge to be appropriate (Article 5(4)). Where the offender was under 18 at the time of the offence (ie those sentenced to detention at the Secretary of State's pleasure) the Secretary of State shall direct, at an appropriate stage, that such cases become eligible for consideration for release by the Commissioners, under Article 6, once the tariff period which he specifies has been served (Article 5(5)). Article 5(6) indicates that the appropriate stage, referred to in Article 5(4) and (5), will be when the Secretary of State, having regard to relevant factors in the case, considers that a direction on tariff may be made. Article 5(7) defines associated offences in relation to the provisions at Article 5(3). The Committee welcomed the new arrangements whereby courts will be required to fix the punishment part of a life sentence to satisfy the requirements of retribution and deterrence. The Committee debated Article 5(4) which allows the Secretary of State to direct that the early release provisions shall apply to an offender who was over the age of eighteen when he committed the offence and who has received a whole life tariff from the court. Although the Committee's majority view was to accept this provision, some Committee members objected to the provision in principle because it allows for political interference with the court's power to sentence convicted offenders who were over eighteen when they committed the offence. In relation to Article 5(5), it was felt that the power of the Secretary of State to review the court's sentence was appropriate where the offender was under the age of eighteen when the offence was committed. 15. Article 6 allows the prisoner to require his case to be referred to the Life Sentence Review Commissioners on expiry of his tariff for a direction as to his release (Article 6(5)). If the prisoner is serving two or more life sentences referral cannot be made until the tariff of each sentence has been served (Article 6(2)). If he is serving a determinate sentence with a life sentence, referral cannot be made until he could have been discharged on the ground of good conduct under prison rules on the determinate sentence (Article 6(5)(c)). A prisoner who has been referred to the Commissioners and has had his release refused will have his case re-referred by the Secretary of State within a maximum two year period (Article 6(5)(b)). The Life Sentence Review Commissioners can direct a prisoner's release on licence if the case has been referred to them by the Secretary of State and if they are satisfied that continued detention of the prisoner is not required for the protection of the public (Article 6(4)). Subject to the requirements of other life sentences or determinate sentences, it is the duty of the Secretary of State to release the prisoner as soon as he has served his tariff and the Life Sentence Review Commissioners have directed his release (Article 6(3)). Any time during which a prisoner has been unlawfully at large will not count towards the completion of his tariff, unless otherwise directed by the Secretary of State (Article 6(6)). Where a life sentence prisoner is serving more than one sentence, whether a further life or determinate sentence, the Secretary of State will not be required to release that person until the period to be served in respect of each of the terms is satisfied (Article 6(7)). The Committee raised concerns about the potential for conflict between the proviso contained in Article 6(4)(b), i.e. that life prisoners are not to be released unless the Commissioners are satisfied that there is no risk of serious harm, and the current Article 3(4)(b) which requires the Commissioners to have regard to the desirability of preventing the commission of further offences and securing the rehabilitation of life prisoners. The Committee was of the opinion that, in having regard to the factors contained in Article 6(4)(b) and Article 3(4)(b), the Commissioners would be justified in deciding not to release a life prisoner (even if they were satisfied that there was no risk of serious harm) in the interests of preventing further minor offences or the prisoner's further rehabilitation. In view of this, the Committee recommended that Article 6(4) be amended to exclude consideration of the factors contained in the current Article 3(4)(b) when deciding when to release a life prisoner. 16. Article 7 provides the Secretary of State with the power to grant compassionate release at any time in exceptional circumstances, for example, in the case of a terminally ill prisoner or in tragic family circumstances (Article 7(1)). The power could be used either before tariff expiry - and therefore before the Commissioners' powers can be exercised - or after. It could also be used when urgent decisions are required and a panel of Commissioners cannot be convened at short notice. Unless it is impracticable, the Secretary of State must consult the Commissioners (Article 7(2)). The Committee had no objections to the principles of this Article, however it recommended that the Secretary of State should consult the Commissioners in all cases. 17. Article 8 defines arrangements for the duration and conditions of licences. Unless revoked (under Article 9), such licences remain in force for life (Article 8(1)). Licences are granted and licensing conditions attached by the Secretary of State who has the discretion to require post-release supervision by a probation officer (Article 8(2)). The Secretary of State may make rules for regulating such supervision. The Secretary of State cannot attach, insert, vary or cancel licensing conditions except in accordance with the recommendations of the Commissioners (Article 8(3)). These conditions placed upon the Secretary of State apply to licences imposed on release and those imposed when recalled prisoners are being re-released and re-licensed. The Committee raised a concern in respect of Article 8(1) which provides that where a prisoner is released on licence, the licence remains in force (unless previously revoked) until his death. The Committee was of the view that the remaining in force of a licence until death without the possibility of review was unduly harsh. It therefore recommended that Article 8 be amended to allow the Life Sentence Review Commissioners to review the licence at regular intervals. It further recommended that the Commissioners be given the power to annul a licence after a certain period of time has elapsed and where there have been no breaches of the licence conditions. 18. Article 9 provides the arrangements for the recall of life sentence prisoners and SOSp's while on licence. Licences can be revoked and prisoners recalled to prison by the Secretary of State either with or without the recommendation of the Commissioners (Articles 9(1) and 9(2) respectively). The Secretary of State may revoke and recall without the Commissioners' recommendation where it appears expedient in the public interest to recall the prisoner and it would be impracticable to obtain views from Commissioners (Article 9(2)). On recall to prison, the prisoner will be informed of the reasons for his recall and of his right to make representations which he may make in writing to the Secretary of State (Article 9(3)). All prisoners recalled under Articles 9(1) and (2) will be referred to the Commissioners by the Secretary of State (Article 9(4)). The Commissioners have the power to direct release and the Secretary of State must give effect to their direction (Article 9(5)). A prisoner whose licence has been revoked is liable to be detained in prison and, if he is at large, shall be deemed to be unlawfully at large (Article 9(6)). The Committee recommended that the wording of Article 9(2) be amended as follows to ensure consistency with Article 6(4)(b): "(2) The Secretary of State may revoke the licence of any life prisoner and recall him to prison before a recommendation by the Commissioners is practicable where it appears to him to be necessary for the protection of the public from serious harm." The Committee also recommended that Article 9(4) be amended in order to specify a timescale for the Secretary of State's referral of the case to the Life Sentence Review Commissioners. It recommended a re-wording of Article 9(4) as follows: "(4) The Secretary of State shall as soon as reasonably practicable refer the case of a life prisoner recalled under this Article to the Commissioners." 19. Article 10 provides for life prisoners transferred to Northern Ireland to be subject to the Order. Transferred life prisoners include those transferred to Northern Ireland from Great Britain under the Crime (Sentences) Act 1997 and those received from outside the United Kingdom either transferred under the Colonial Prisoners Removal Act 1884 or repatriated under the Repatriation of Prisoners Act 1984 (Article 10(4)). Those transferred under the Crime (Sentences) Act 1997 must be unrestricted transferees (Article 10(4)(b)(iii) as decisions on the release of restricted transferees remain the responsibility of the sending jurisdiction. The Secretary of State will consult with the Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland, on transfer cases, and certify that they become eligible for consideration for release by the Commissioners once the tariff period which is specified has been served (Article 10(1)). Article 10(2) makes provision for juvenile and adult whole life tariff transferees to be referred to the Commissioners in the same manner as those receiving whole life tariffs in Northern Ireland. Transferred prisoners who have two or more life or SOSp sentences cannot be considered for release by the Commissioners until the tariff of the longer sentence has been served (Article 10(5)). The Committee was concerned that the arrangements contained in Article 10 appear to be incompatible with Article 6 of the ECHR in that the Secretary of State, albeit in consultation with the Lord Chief Justice, certifies the part of the sentence to be served by life prisoners transferred to Northern Ireland. The Secretary of State is therefore given a sentencing function because he is given a power to specify the tariff or punishment part of the sentence in a certificate. The Committee agreed that Article 10 of the draft Order requires to be reconsidered in order to ensure compatibility with Article 6 of the ECHR. The Committee recommended that the power to specify the tariff or punishment part of the sentence in relation to transferred life prisoners should be given to the Court. In addition, the Committee recommended that, in order to comply fully with Article 6 of the ECHR, the determination of the tariff requires a hearing before a Court. The Committee also recommended that there should be a referral procedure whereby the Secretary of State refers the case of a transferred life prisoner to the Court for the determination of the tariff. 20. Article 11 provides for the application of the proposed arrangements to existing life sentence and SOSp prisoners whose sentences were imposed prior to the commencement of the Order. These include:- (a) those prisoners who have not been released on licence at any stage in their sentence; and (b) those prisoners already recalled to prison on revocation of a life licence issued under Section 23 of the Prison Act (NI) or Article 46(2) of the Criminal Justice (Children) (Northern Ireland) Order 1998. For those existing prisoners identified at (a), the Secretary of State will consult with the Lord Chief Justice and the trial judge (if available) and shall certify that they become eligible for consideration for release by the Commissioners (under Article 6) once the tariff period which the Secretary of State specifies has been served (Article 11(1)). For those existing prisoners identified at (b), their cases shall be referred to the Commissioners for consideration under the provisions of Article 9(3) to (5) (Article 11(5)). As with the arrangements contained in Article 10, the Committee was concerned that the Secretary of State is given the power (albeit in consultation with the Lord Chief Justice) to certify the part of the sentence which should be served before the prisoner is to be considered for release. The Committee was of the opinion that this would not be compatible with Article 6 of the ECHR and recommended that power should be given to the Court. 21. Article 12 provides for the inclusion in the Commissioners' caseload of prisoners, already released under Section 23 of the Prison Act (Northern Ireland) 1953 and Article 46 of the Criminal Justice (Children) (Northern Ireland) Order 1998, whose life licences may be revoked after the commencement of the Order. (Article 12(1)). Any such prisoners subsequently recalled in this way shall have their cases referred to the Commissioners for consideration under Article 9(4). The Committee had no objections to the provisions of this Article. 22. Article 13 introduces Schedule 3 which provides for the amendments required to existing legislation and Schedule 4 which provides for repeals. Schedule 3 provides for the amendment of the Repatriation of Prisoners Act 1984 and the Crime (Sentences) Act 1997 to include reference to the Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001. The amendment of the Criminal Justice (Children) (Northern Ireland) Order 1998 removes the Secretary of State's power to discharge on licence those sentenced under that Order. The power of release is replaced with the provisions of the proposed draft Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001. Schedule 4 provides for the repeal of section 23 of the Prison Act (Northern Ireland) 1953, and of sections 1(2) and 1(3) of the Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act 1973 governing, respectively, the Secretary of State's current powers for the release of prisoners serving life imprisonment, and the requirement to consult with the Lord Chief Justice or trial judge if available prior to the release of such prisoners. The power of release is replaced with the provisions of the proposed draft Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001. As a consequence, Schedule 2, paragraph 10 of the Crime (Sentences) Act 1997, and Schedule 5, paragraph 6(b) of the Criminal Justice (Children) (Northern Ireland) Order 1998 are also repealed. The Committee had no objections to the provisions of this Article. 23. The Committee welcomed the draft Order but expressed concerns about the Secretary of State retaining certain powers, potential breaches of the ECHR, lack of clarification on life prisoner recall and revocation of licence. The Committee also stressed the need for the Secretary of State to enter into meaningful consultations with the relevant organisations before implementation. The Committee also expressed concerns about the very tight deadlines that were set to complete its work. It was considered that the tight timescale militated against the provision of oral and written evidence from the Secretary of State, the Northern Ireland Office and to some extent the Legal Profession. The Committee concluded that evidence, from these witnesses, would have been helpful in producing a more fully informed report. Appendix 1 MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS MONDAY, 29 JANUARY 2001 Present: Mr George Savage MLA (Chairperson) In Attendance: Mr Tony Logue, Committee Clerk Apologies: Mr Ian Paisley Jnr MLA 11.07am the meeting opened in public session - Clerk in the Chair. 1. Apologies An apology was received from Mr Paisley. 2. Committee Support Staff The Clerk opened the meeting by introducing himself and the other Committee Office staff in attendance. 11.08am Mr Attwood joined the meeting. 3. Election of Chairperson and Deputy Chairperson Following agreement by the Committee, the Clerk sought nominations for Chairperson. Mr Billy Hutchinson proposed that Mr Savage take the Chair; Mrs Bell seconded this. The question was put that Mr Savage do take the Chair. This was carried by a majority of members. 11.10am Mr Savage in the Chair. 11.11am the meeting was suspended by leave of the Committee. 11.16am the Chairperson reconvened the meeting. Nominations for Deputy Chairperson were sought. Mr Roger Hutchinson proposed Mrs Bell take the position of Deputy Chairperson; Mr Attwood seconded this. It was unanimously carried that Mrs Bell take the position of Deputy Chairperson. 4. Declaration of Interests The Chairperson reminded members that they were required to declare any specific or other interests related to the work of this Committee. Mrs Bell declared an interest as a member of the Probation Board for Northern Ireland and stated she is no longer a member of the Local Government Staff Commission (NI). Mr Billy Hutchinson declared an interest as a life sentence prisoner on licence. 5. Terms of Reference The Terms of Reference of the Committee were noted. 6. Committee's Procedures The members agreed to hold future meetings in public session and that voting would be by simple majority as in Standing Order 47(9). It was agreed not to have deputies. 7. Life Sentences (NI) Order 2001 - Briefing The Committee debated the purpose and changes to legislation following a brief presentation from the Assembly Research and Library Service. The Committee requested a research brief distinguishing the difference between the Sentence Review Commissioners and the Life Sentence Review Commissioners be issued to members. Action: Clerk The Committee considered key witnesses who could be invited to attend meetings and provide written and oral evidence. As a result of the extremely tight deadlines involved for reporting to the Assembly, the Committee agreed to invite written and oral evidence from: General Council of the Bar of Northern Ireland; Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission; Probation Board for Northern Ireland; The Law Society of Northern Ireland; and The Queen's University of Belfast Institute of Criminology and Criminal Justice. The Committee agreed to invite written evidence from: Lord Chief Justice's Office; and Northern Ireland Association for the Care and Resettlement of Offenders. Action: Clerk 11.40am Mrs Bell left the meeting 8. Any other business A copy of section 71 of the Courts and Legal Services Act 1990 will be issued to members. Action: Clerk Following a short discussion on the format of the Committee Report it was agreed that where consensus is not reached the Report will reflect the various propositions from members. 9. Date of future meetings The members agreed that the next two meetings of the Committee would be held on Monday, 5 February 2001 at 10.15am in Room 152, Parliament Buildings, and Tuesday, 6 February 2001 at 2.00pm in Room 152, Parliament Buildings. 12.04pm Mr Attwood left the meeting The Chairperson adjourned the meeting at 12.05pm. Mr George Savage MLA MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS MONDAY, 5 FEBRUARY 2001 Present: Mr George Savage MLA,
Chairperson In Attendance: Mr Tony Logue, Committee Clerk 10.15am the meeting opened in public session. 1. Apologies None. 2. Chairperson's Business The Chairperson informed members that due to European engagements he would be unable to attend the next meeting. 3. Approval of draft minutes of previous proceedings The minutes were agreed and signed by the Chairperson. 4. Matters Arising A research paper distinguishing the differences between the Sentence Review Commission and the Life Sentence Review Commission and a copy of section 71 of the Courts and Legal Services Act 1990 were noted. It was agreed that the Committee would write to the Secretary of State and senior officials from the Northern Ireland Office inviting them to give oral evidence on the draft Order. Action: Clerk 5. Correspondence The Chairperson informed members that The Law Society of Northern Ireland would not be accepting the Committee's invitation to provide oral or written evidence. The General Council of the Bar of Northern Ireland will endeavour to provide a written submission. 6. Evidence from the Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission Evidence on the Life Sentences (NI) Order 2001 was taken from Professor Brice Dickson and Ms Maggs O'Conor from the Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission. It was agreed that they would forward additional information. 10.32am Mrs Bell joined the meeting. 10.34am Prof. McWilliams joined the meeting. 7. Evidence from the Probation Board for Northern Ireland Evidence on the Life Sentences (NI) Order 2001 was taken from Mr Brendan Fulton and Mr Alan Darnbrook from the Probation Board for Northern Ireland. It was agreed that they would also forward additional information. 8. Any Other Business None. 9. Date and time of future meetings The members agreed that the next two meetings of the Committee would be held on Tuesday, 6 February 2001 at 2.00pm in Room 152, Parliament Buildings and Monday, 12 February 2001 at 10.15am in Room 152, Parliament Buildings. The Chairperson adjourned the meeting at 11.58am. Mrs Eileen Bell MLA MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS TUESDAY, 6 FEBRUARY 2001 Present: Mrs Eileen Bell MLA, Deputy
Chairperson In Attendance: Mr Tony Logue, Committee Clerk Apologies: Mr George Savage MLA, Chairperson 2.02pm the meeting opened in public session - Mrs Bell in the Chair. 2.03pm Mr Kelly and Mr Murphy joined the meeting. 1. Apologies The apologies are listed above. 2. Approval of draft minutes of previous proceedings The minutes were agreed and signed by the Deputy Chairperson. 3. Matters Arising None. 4. Evidence from the Queen's University of Belfast Evidence on the Life Sentences (NI) Order 2001 was taken from Professor John Jackson from the Queen's University of Belfast. It was agreed that he would provide additional information. 2.14pm Mr Shipley Dalton joined the meeting. 2.27pm Prof McWilliams joined the meeting. 5. Committee's Report A draft report will be prepared and distributed to members on Friday, 9 February 2001. Action: Clerk. 6. Any Other Business The Clerk informed members that he had invited the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, on the Committee's behalf, to attend a future meeting of the Ad Hoc Committee; a reply was expected by Thursday, 8 February 2001. 7. Date and time of future meetings The members agreed that the next meeting of the Committee would be held on Monday, 12 February 2001 at 10.15am in Room 152, Parliament Buildings. 2.50pm the Deputy Chairperson adjourned the meeting. Mr George Savage MLA MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS MONDAY, 12 FEBRUARY 2001 Present: Mr George Savage MLA,
Chairperson In Attendance: Mr Tony Logue, Committee Clerk 10.21am the meeting opened in public session - Mr Savage in the Chair. Mr R Hutchinson proposed that the meeting suspend for one hour to allow members an opportunity to review the draft report, agreed. 10.25am the Chairperson suspended the meeting. 11.35am the Chairperson reconvened the meeting. 1. Apologies No apologies were received. 2. Approval of draft minutes of previous proceedings The minutes were agreed and signed by the Chairperson. 3. Matters Arising The Chairperson informed members that the Lord Chief Justice's Office would not be making a written submission but the General Council of the Bar of Northern Ireland hoped to make a written submission by Wednesday, 15 February 2001. 4. Written Submissions - Update The Committee noted the submission received from the Northern Ireland Association for the Care and Resettlement of Offenders (NIACRO). 5. Minutes of Evidence The Chairperson reminded members that, due to the tight deadline, the Committee Staff required corrected transcripts to be returned no later than close of play on Tuesday, 13 February 2001. 6. Life Sentences (NI) Order 2001 - Consideration The Committee noted the draft report and agreed to carry out an Article by Article consideration of the draft Order. 11.38am Mr Paisley joined the meeting. Article 1 - Title and commencement Agreed, that the Committee had no objections to this Article. Article 2 - Interpretation Agreed, that the Committee had no objections to this Article. 11.44am Prof. McWilliams joined the meeting. 11.45am Prof. McWilliams left the meeting. Article 3 - Life Sentence Review Commissioners 11.47am Mr B Hutchinson left the meeting. Agreed, that there should be a clear statement outlining that the Commissioners should be independent of Government and appointed through open competition; in exercising their functions, have regard for the Convention rights of the life prisoners and also any representations made on behalf of the victim. Schedule 1 - Commissioners Agreed, that Schedule 1 should provide for a fixed term of appointment, to ensure independence from Government. Article 4 - Commissioners' Procedure Agreed, that the Committee had no objections to this Article. Schedule 2 - Commissioners' Procedure Agreed, that the provisions for disclosure of information to the life sentence prisoner may give rise to challenge under Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) and therefore, there should be a role for the Commissioners in deciding what information can be classified confidential. Article 5 - Determination of tariffs 12.07am Mr Maginness joined the meeting. Agreed, that the Committee welcomes the new arrangements whereby courts will be required to fix the tariff upon sentencing. The Committee debated the provisions of Article 5(4) and Mr Paisley stated that he could not agree that a politician should have the powers provided for under this Article, and that these would be better exercised by the courts. Article 6 - Duty to release certain life prisoners Agreed, that Article 6(4) be amended to remove the potential for conflict between the proviso contained in Article 6(4)(b), i.e. that life prisoners are not to be released unless the Commissioners are satisfied that there is no risk of serious harm, and the current Article 3(4)(b), which requires the Commissioners to have regard to the desirability of preventing the commission of further offences and securing the rehabilitation of life prisoners. Article 7 - Power to release life prisoners on compassionate grounds Agreed, that the Committee had no objections to this Article. 1.00pm the Chairperson suspended the meeting. 4.07pm the Chairperson reconvened the meeting. Article 8 - Duration and conditions of licences 4.15pm Mr R Hutchinson and Prof. McWilliams joined the meeting. Agreed, that the duration of the licence was unduly harsh and that this Article should be amended so that the Life Sentence Review Commissioners could review the conditions periodically and annul the licence if appropriate. Article 9 - Recall of life prisoners while on licence Agreed, that greater clarity is required on the arrangements for the recall of the life sentence prisoners while on licence. Article 10 - Life prisoners transferred to Northern Ireland Agreed, that the provisions of this Article appear to be incompatible with the ECHR and should be amended so that the power of the Secretary of State, in relation to specification of the tariff of the life prisoner's sentence, be given to the Court. Article 11 - Existing life prisoners Agreed, that the provisions of this Article appear to be incompatible with the ECHR and should be amended so that the power of the Secretary of State, in relation to specification of the tariff of the life prisoner's sentence, be given to the Court. Article 12 - Existing licences Agreed, that the Committee had no objections to this Article. Article 13 - Amendments and repeals Agreed, that the Committee had no objections to this Article. The Committee agreed to consider a revised draft report at its next meeting. Action: Clerk. 7. Draft motion The Committee agreed the draft Motion. 8. Date and time of future meetings The members agreed that the next meeting of the Committee would be held on Monday, 19 February 2001 at 9.30am in Room 144, Parliament Buildings. 4.48pm the Chairperson adjourned the meeting. Mr George Savage MLA MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS MONDAY, 19 FEBRUARY 2001 Present: Mr George Savage MLA,
Chairperson In Attendance: Mr Tony Logue, Committee Clerk 9.35am the meeting opened in public session 1. Apologies None 2. Approval of draft minutes of previous proceeding The minutes were agreed and signed by the Chairperson. 9.37am Mr Roger Hutchinson joined the meeting. 3. Matters Arising 9.40am Mr Maginness joined the meeting. Members noted a letter from the Northern Ireland Office (NIO) explaining that, due to pre-existing diary commitments, the Secretary of State and NIO officials were unable to accept the Committee's invitation to give oral evidence on the draft Order. The Committee agreed to write to the Secretary of State expressing disappointment that they were unable to attend. The Committee also agreed to write to the Speaker's Office and the relevant Committee about the very tight deadlines that were set for this and other Ad Hoc Committees to complete their work. Finally, the Committee agreed to write to the General Council of the Bar of Northern Ireland expressing disappointment that they were unable to provide a written submission before today's meeting. Action: Clerk The Committee agreed that responses, to questions raised by members, from the Probation Board for Northern Ireland be included as a supplementary written submission in Appendix 5 of the Report. The Committee noted a copy of the publication "Prison Law" by Stephen Livingstone and Tim Owen will be placed in the Assembly Library. Action: Clerk 4. Consideration of draft Report Mrs Bell proposed the Committee should agree the Report subject to minor amendments. This was seconded by Mr Maginness. The Committee ordered the Report to be printed. 5. Any other business Members agreed that the Minutes of Proceedings will be agreed and signed by the Chairperson. The Chairperson thanked members and staff for their assistance in enabling the Report to be completed on time. 10.18am the Chairperson adjourned the meeting. George Savage MLA MINUTES OF EVIDENCE MONDAY, 5 FEBRUARY 2001 Members present:Mr Savage (Chairperson) Mrs E Bell (Deputy Chairperson) Mr Attwood Mr B Hutchinson Mr R Hutchinson Mr J Kelly Ms McWilliams Mr M Murphy Mr Paisley Jnr Witnesses: 1. The Chairperson: Prof Dickson, you are very welcome, and we look forward to hearing your contribution. 2. Prof Dickson: Thank you very much for the invitation, and I apologise for not being able to make a written submission before this morning - I am afraid time did not permit that. I have now presented a paper, and I will briefly refer to it. 3. The Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission welcomes the Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001 because it attempts to bring the law into line with the European Convention on Human Rights, and the comments we are making should be taken in that context. 4. At paragraph 2 of our submission, we suggest that when the Life Sentence Review Commissioners excercise their functions, they should be required to have regard to the "Convention rights of life prisoners". By virtue of the Human Rights Act they are already under a legal obligation to do this, but the insertion of this phrase would make it more explicit. We then suggest that where the Secretary of State has a discretion to direct that early release provisions apply, that should be replaced with a duty. That would bring the law regarding adult prisoners into line with the law regarding offenders aged under 18 when they committed the offence. We do not see any justification for distinguising between the two groups on the basis of age, and in any case this may well be contrary to section 75 of the Northern Ireland Act 1998. 5. We have difficulties with two or three provisions in the draft Order, which leave it to the Secretary of State to specify the tariff - that is the part of the sentence which must be served before the early release provisions apply - because the European Convention on Human Rights makes it clear that that kind of decision should be taken by a judicial authority and not by the Secretary of State. It is strange that the Order is setting up the Life Sentence Review Commissioners to direct the release of prisioners in many cases, yet leaves it to the Secretary of State in some residual cases - that seems anomalous. 6. In paragraph 5 we make it clear that the definition of "appropriate stage" is too subjective and too vague. It is possible that the European Court of Human Rights would not accept this definition. At the very least the word "reasonably" should be inserted at the appropriate point. 7. Article 6(4) requires the commissioners to be "satisfied that it is no longer necessary for the protection of the public from serious harm that the prisoner should be confined". Again, we find this provision vague. It does not specify what standard of proof the commissioners would apply and it does not define "serious harm". The phrase "to the public" seems a bit strange as well. For example, what if a particular person might be at risk from the release of the offender, say the person who testified against the offender - would that not matter? Should the person still be released, even though he or she is potentially a danger to that person? 8. In paragraph 7 we recommend that the views of victims of the prisoner be taken into consideration. Such views should not be determinative of the Life Sentence Review Commissioners' decision, but they should be taken into account. That would be in line with current trends in international human rights law, of which we approve. 9. Paragraph 8 indicates that the licence provision should remain in force until the prisoner's death. That is a particularly harsh provision, which is not mirrored in many other countries. It means that it is impossible for the life prisoner to wipe the slate completely clean, however young he or she may have been when the life sentence was imposed. There is an argument for saying that the licence should have a definite life that is short of the life of the prisoner and the strictness of the licence should diminish as the prisoner grows older. The longer a prisoner has been on licence the more difficult it would then be for the authorities to bring him or her back to prison, which is reasonable. At the very least, the standard of proof, which the authorities should have to satisfy, should increase in proportion to the length of time the prisoner has been on licence. 10. Paragraph 9 of our submission indicates that the conditions the authorities can impose are unspecified in the Order. Some conditions would be unreasonable and we suggest that the Order should specify that no condition can be imposed which would be a breach of the prisoner's Convention rights. 11. At paragraph 10 we indicate that the Order is silent on the standard of proof which the Life Sentence Review Commissioners should apply when making a recommendation for the recall of a released prisoner. It is not clear whether the breach of any condition, even a trivial one, would automatically justify a recall. The Secretary of State still has a discretion to recall a prisoner, apparently in situations where it would not be practicable to consult the Commissioners first. We do not easily see when such a situation could arise. 12. At paragraph 12 we suggest that the test for recall is also very vague. The phrase "expedient in the public interest" seems to us to be very peculiar and we would suggest the use of the words "necessary to protect the public from serious harm". 13. Article 9(4) says that the Secretary of State shall refer any case of recall to prison to the Commissioners, but it does not say when this must be done. We think it should be as soon as possible. 14. Paragraph 14 repeats the point we were making earlier, at paragraph 4, about the Secretary of State having discretion. 15. At paragraph 15 we indicate that the Order's definition of a transferred life prisoner is unclear to us. At one point it seems to suggest that people who have not received life sentences elsewhere would still be included. We wonder why. 16. At paragraph 17 we indicate that the Life Sentence Commissioners' Rules talk about the chairman of the panel, but do not seem to make any provision for the appointment of such a person. In any event, we do not believe that these types of decisions should be left to one person. They should be taken collectively by the panel or by a majority if necessary. 17. Rule 9 of the Life Sentence Commissioners' Rules deals with the location and privacy of hearings. We think that the Human Rights Commission should be permitted to observe hearings and we believe that the hearings should be in public, unless the panel directs otherwise. The current rules say that hearings should be in private, unless the chairman of the panel directs otherwise. 18. Finally, at paragraph 21 we have grave difficulties with Rules 15 and 16 of the Commissioners' Rules. These provide for the non-disclosure of confidential information and the appointment of a special advocate. We have long been opposed to this method of dealing with an individual's liberty. The person is entitled under the European Convention to know the case against himself/herself and to have a legal representative whom he/she can consult. This provision does not permit that, and it worries us greatly. 19. The Chairperson: Thank you very much. I am sure you have given us many ideas, and put doubts into some people's minds. The Committee would now like to ask you a few questions. Does the current law in Northern Ireland governing sentences to life imprisonment and detention at the Secretary of State's pleasure comply with all relevant human rights law? 20. Prof Dickson: No, we think it does not. The European Convention, which is part of our law, requires a judicial authority to take decisions on the length of person's sentence, and when he/she should be released. Currently the discretions that lie with the Secretary of State or with the Life Sentence Review Board would not, in our view, comply with the European Convention. 21. The Chairperson: Does the current law in Northern Ireland governing the release on licence of those on life imprisonment or detention at the Secretary of State's pleasure comply with all relevant human rights law? 22. Prof Dickson: The answer I have just given would apply to that as well. Was your first question in relation to the imposition of life sentences, as opposed to release? If that is so then I should clarify my first answer. It was intended to apply to the release system that is currently in place. 23. To go back to your first question, the current sentencing system is possibly inconsistent with the European Convention, insofar as it allows indeterminate sentences to be applied to people under 18 years of age. By and large, the Convention requires definite sentences to be imposed on individuals. 24. Mr Paisley Jnr: There are three areas of interest to me. I notice that you object strongly to Rules 15 and 16 on special advocates. I assume that also applies to a witness being able to hear his accusers and his case, and put questions to his accusers. You object to this in this new legislation, though I am not aware of your objecting to it strongly or vociferously in the Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998. As you know, it has been applied in some very prominent cases since then and I would like to hear your views on that. 25. My second point is on Commissioners. Do you agree that Commissioners should have the following skills: relevant human rights experience; they should not be members, or former members, of the Executive, the Civil Service and they should not have been prison governors; and permanent members of the Human Rights Commission should be at every panel. They should also have judicial experience in criminal trials. You have already addressed the point about members of the Human Rights Commission - I believe you said that they should be present. 26. In paragraph 7 of your submission - Article 6(4) on the treatment of victims - you make an interesting point about victims being represented. Could you give us your opinion on the operational mechanics and indicate the current position? I understand that under the Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 and the early release scheme some victims were informed while others were not. How would this be put in place, which victims would be informed, and what role would they play? Will they simply be allowed to express a view to the court, or will that view be recognised in some way? 27. Mr B Hutchinson: For the record, people are confusing this with the Good Friday Agreement and the early release scheme, and it has nothing to do with either. This has been in place since 1987, and we need to be careful how we answer or ask questions. A person being informed has nothing to do with this. We can draw parallels, but we cannot say that some were informed and others were not. This is a totally different set up, and we must be clear about that. 28. Mr Paisley Jnr: I am drawing a parallel because I want to find out how the Human Rights Commission believes it should operate. Should it operate from the experience we have gone through or should a new set of mechanisms be put in place, which would allow it to operate appropriately? 29. Prof Dickson: On your first point, the Human Rights Commission endorsed the points made by our predecessor, the Standing Advisory Commission on Human Rights, in relation to the proposed provisions in the Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 on non- disclosure of confidential information and appointment of special advocates. Recently, we objected staunchly to those provisions in the case of Mr Adair. We sought permission to observe the hearing by the Sentence Review Commissioners, and were excluded from the closed hearing. People whose cases are being considered by the Sentence Review Commissioners - or in this case by the Life Sentence Review Commissioners - should be able to see the evidence against them and have their own legal representative with whom they can consult. We felt then, and still feel now, that this is a breach of human rights and we went on record to say that in relation to Mr Adair. 30. As a body, the Human Rights Commission has not discussed whether the Life Sentence Commissioners should have the kind of experience that you suggest. Looking at the skills you have identified, I see no reason why people should not be required to have those skills. The Human Rights Commission would like to have the right to be present, whether as a full member of the Life Sentence Review Commission or not (this is not something we would insist on). We would like the right to observe hearings, to ensure that everybody's rights are fully protected. 31. The Commission has not discussed how the mechanism in paragraph 7 would work in practice. For the present, we simply draw the Committee's attention to the trend in international law and the wisdom of taking into account the views of victims. We are clear that their views should not be determinative, but that they are relevant to any decision on when, or if, to release someone. 32. Mr Paisley Jnr: Could you explain that to us a little more fully? 33. Prof Dickson: I am not sure I can. The Human Rights Commission has not yet had the chance to consider how this would work in practice - for example, whether the victim's view on when an offender should be released should carry a great deal of weight. We are clear that their views should be taken on board, but not about how much weight they should carry, except to say that they should not be determinative, meaning that they alone should not dictate the result. 34. Ms O'Conor: There are very few international human rights studies in this area. The field is at the beginning of its development and is quite broad. There has been some development in certain jurisdictions but not enough to be able to answer your question in any detail. It is a matter which will need wide consultation and consideration. 35. Mr Paisley Jnr: Do the mechanics of your suggestion mean that victims should be contacted, sending in their views on the tariff for your attention in writing? Should they be called to a special public hearing to give their views in the presence of the person who made them a victim? Would the victim have to give those views only then, or do you suggest there is some other course of action which the Commissioners could take to give them due weight? 36. Prof Dickson: We are not making a recom- mendation on any of those points, but I will take them back for the Human Rights Commission to consider. I should have thought that at the very least their views should be sent in writing, but I am not so sure that it would be necessary to go to the length of having the victim or the victim's relatives present. We are clear that views submitted should not dictate the outcome of the issue, but would be given appropriate weight in the light of all the circumstances. 37. The Chairperson: That is a very important issue, and I ask you to take it on board. 38. Prof Dickson: Yes, I will do so. 39. Ms McWilliams: Can you describe in detail how the tariff is used in Great Britain when life sentences are imposed? Is the life tariff under the draft Order compatible with all relevant human rights law? 40. Prof Dickson: As far as I understand it, a judge in England sets the tariff in a way which ensures adequate retribution and deterrence against others committing the same offence. The two key concepts are retribution and deterrence. After that period has elapsed, it becomes possible for the person to be released early. There are differences in England which I do not feel qualified to talk about, although perhaps Ms O'Conor can. These concern the treatment of mandatory and discretionary life prisoners and young people detained at Her Majesty's pleasure. The merit in the draft Order is that by and large it harmonises the law for all three categories - I have adverted to one or two differences vis-à-vis young people. That is greatly to be applauded, because it goes beyond the position in England, which will continue to distinguish between mandatory and discretionary life prisoners. 41. As to whether this new Order will comply fully with the European Convention, we have indicated that in several respects it may not. For example, retaining a discretion for the Secretary of State to set the tariff rather than requiring a judicial body such as the Life Sentence Review Commissioners, if indeed it is a judicial body for the purposes of the Convention, is a flaw. The vagueness of such terms as "appropriate stage" and "expedient in the public interest" is highly questionable in European Convention terms. 42. Mr R Hutchinson: You may have answered my question. Do you think it is right that a politician such as the Secretary of State should have the final say as to whether someone is or is not released? 43. Prof Dickson: No, we do not. That is exactly our point. The treatment of people who have been sentenced to imprisonment should be a judicial matter - at least the length of the sentence should be a judicial matter. Certainly the executive authorities should be responsible for the running of prisons and ensuring that prisoners have their rights protected. We feel strongly that the length of the sentence should be a matter for a judicial authority. 44. Mrs E Bell: We share the concerns you raised in your submission in paragraphs 8 and 10. We also felt that the fact that "The licence shall remain in force until the prisoner's death". was very harsh. We are concerned that the standard of proof required by the Commissioners is not specified. Do the draft Order's licence and recall provisions raise any potential human rights concerns, especially in relation to Articles 8 and 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights? If the Order were enacted, would it comply with the highest human rights legal standards concerning life sentence prisoners? 45. Prof Dickson: It is always difficult to be categorical about whether an actual or proposed law would or would not comply with particular provisions of the European Convention, because it often depends on how the provisions are applied in practice. They may sound fine on paper, but if they are applied in a certain way, they might contravene the Convention. Taking Articles 8 and 9 of the Convention, which protect the right to a private and home life and the right to freedom of conscience and thought and so forth, it is possible that certain licence conditions, for example, the hypothetical situation where a prisoner should not associate with a particular individual, would be a breach of that prisoner's right to a private life under Article 8. 46. It is less easy to imagine a breach of Article 9, which protects the right to freedom of religion, conscience and thought. We have concerns that the provisions you have drawn attention to would breach Article 5 of the Convention which protects the right to liberty and security of the person. If somebody can be recalled to prison on a very trivial matter, perhaps on the evidence of an informer or somebody who wants to frame the individual and is making unsubstantiated allegations against a prisoner, then that person's liberty could be at stake. The general principle in international human rights law is that a very high standard of proof has to be met before a person can be deprived of his or her liberty. 47. The length of the licence and the lack of clarity about standards of proof also give us serious cause for concern in relation to Article 6 of the Convention, which specifies that in all matters determining a person's rights and obligations, that person must have a fair hearing. That means having a proper standard of proof and, going back to Mr Paisley Jnr's question, knowing the case against them and having a chance to answer it. 48. Mrs E Bell: It is the difference between the legislation as it is written and our responsibility to see that it is correctly enacted and implemented. 49. Prof Dickson: That is why we suggest inserting a phrase such as "in compliance with the prisoner's Convention rights" as a safeguard. 50. Mr B Hutchinson: I would like to ask about recall. It seems very clinical to talk about who should be responsible for the length of the sentence and how it should be done. First, regarding trivial breach, are you saying that we should have some standard of proof for the Commissioners to go by and, if so, are there examples in Europe or elsewhere that we could draw on? 51. I am not sure who decides if someone is recalled. Do the police make a request to the Secretary of State, or is it the Commissioners? My understanding is that it remains with the Secretary of State, who deals with political prisoners even though he has never admitted it. I think the Secretary of State is the person who holds the licence. I have a licence signed by the Secretary of State. 52. As for the length of time and who is responsible, are we talking about punishment or rehabilitation? If we are talking about punishment, the court can set the tariff and we can forget about everybody else. However, if we are talking about rehabilitation, then a time frame must be set. 53. Prof Dickson: It is difficult to point to other international examples regarding the standard of proof. As far as I know, the new system for dealing with complaints against the police force in Northern Ireland has a sliding scale for standards of proof. I will double-check this. The more serious the alleged breach of discipline and consequences for the police officer if found guilty, then the higher the standard of proof that has to be applied. 54. It might be possible to introduce a comparable provision in the Order. To recall somebody to prison for the rest of his or her life on the basis of an unsubstantiated complaint has very serious consequences for that prisoner, so the standard of proof applied ought to be quite high. Whether or not you would want to make it as high as "beyond a reasonable doubt" is something we could debate. If it were to be as high as that, then the full panoply of fair trial provisions that were applied when the prisoner was first tried would have to be re-applied, and that would be expensive and time-consuming. The standard ought to be commensurate with the consequences that the prisoner stands to suffer. 55. Who decides to recall a prisoner? The Order is unclear in Article 9. It seems to indicate that the Secretary of State can recall a prisoner in emergency situations, whereas the general position would be that the Life Sentence Review Commissioners would recall the prisoner. It is strange that the Order appears to make no provision to require the Secretary of State, who recalled a prisoner in an emergency in the first place, to submit the matter to the Commissioners for double-checking. 56. As for rehabilitation, it is certainly the case that the international standards applying to prisoners specify that the main purpose of imprisonment should be rehabilitation. Once the required period for retribution and deterrence has been served, then the sole purpose of imprisonment is rehabilitation. The prisoner should be released once the rehabilitation period is over. We would agree with the implication in your question that a prisoner on licence should be seen as somebody who is going through a rehabilitation process. 57. Mr J Kelly: I think you have covered Article 11, and the five points made during the lifer's campaign. You have also covered legal representation at reviews and commissions. Could you be clearer on the stated criteria for release? 58. Ms O'Conor: I think that the European Court has moved towards risk analysis - and Prof Dickson has already covered this to some extent. Once the period of deterrence, punishment, and retribution has been served, it then becomes a question of risk analysis. It becomes a question of whether there is any threat to the public by the release of the person concerned. That is probably the criterion that would comply with international standards. 59. Ms McWilliams: On that point, Prof Dickson said earlier that public interest was an expedient matter. 60. Mr Dickson: That relates to the recall provision in paragraph 12 of our submission, where we state that the phrase "expedient in the public interest" should be replaced with the phrase "necessary to protect the public from serious harm". In relation to the initial release of the prisoner, paragraph 6 of our submission states that the phrase "serious harm to the public" ought to be defined more clearly. 61. Mr J Kelly: Have you considered the wealth of information which states that after eight years prison becomes debilitating rather than rehabilitating. 62. Prof Dickson: There is research to suggest that. 63. Mr J Kelly: Is there any reason why the Commission should not contain peers - people who have been in the position of having served life sentences? 64. Prof Dickson: The Human Rights Commission has not considered what an appropriate tariff would be in any particular case. We can do so, if the Committee would like us to, although international standards are virtually non-existent. 65. We have not discussed membership of the Life Sentence Review Commission. However, I could not imagine us having any difficulty with people serving on the Commission who have been released on licence. The Order currently disallows that. Our view would be the same as our views on the Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000, where we say that people who have served their time ought to be eligible for appointment to the policing board or the district policing partnerships. 66. Mr Attwood: Did the Northern Ireland Office consult with the Human Rights Commission before the draft legislation was issued? 67. Prof Dickson: No. We received the first version before Christmas, at the same time as everyone else. 68. Mr Attwood: Has the Northern Ireland Office formally asked you to submit your views like everybody else? 69. Prof Dickson: Yes. 70. Mr Attwood: Would you agree that the biggest structural flaw in all the proposed procedures concerns the powers retained by the Secretary of State in terms of role, discretion, and involvement in the management of life sentence prisoners? 71. Would you agree that in your submission, at paragraphs 3, 4, 11, 12, 14 and 17, the main theme is that the Secretary of State, for all the intention behind the proposals, retains major intrusive powers? 72. Prof Dickson: Yes, that would be fair. I would not like to elevate one criticism above all others, but that does seem to be a particular breach of Article 5 (4) of the European Convention. 73. Mr Attwood: Are there any other international conventions, codes or directives, other than the European Convention, that should inform how this legislation is drafted in terms of either a fair process or the rights of prisoners? 74. Prof Dickson: There are. The Human Rights Commission looks at the full range of internationally accepted rules and principles for the protection of human rights when assessing actual and proposed laws, policies and practices in Northern Ireland. In this regard we would cite documents such as the UN's International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the UN's Standard Minimum Rules for the Treatment of Prisoners, and the Council of Europe's Standard Minimum Rules for the Treatment of Prisoners. It has to be said that none of them are specific on the detail of what we are discussing today. 75. Mr Attwood: Is there much added value in them as opposed to the European Convention itself? 76. Prof Dickson: There is some added value, for example, in relation to Mr B Hutchinson's point about rehabilitation. The European Convention says nothing about rehabilitation, but I think I am right in saying that the UN's International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights stresses the need for rehabilitation. 77. Mr Attwood: The document is very helpful. 78. Mr M Murphy: What laws are there in the Republic of Ireland regarding life sentences? How do they differ from ours? 79. Prof Dickson: I am afraid you have me there, Mr Murphy. I do not know what the Republic's law on life sentences is. I can check it out and provide information for the Committee if you would like me to. 80. Mr Paisley Jnr: You have tried to plug a number of loopholes, but under Article 7 there seems to be a major loophole regarding compassionate grounds. The Secretary of State might at any time release a prisoner due to exceptional circumstances. He is required to consult with the Commissioners unless circumstances render such consultation impracticable. Do you think that this legislation should spell out what the exceptional circumstances should be and also when there should not be consultation with the Commission? 81. Prof Dickson: The Human Rights Commission has not considered this in detail. As a general rule we would like to see phrases such as "exceptional circumstances" elucidated in some way, either in the legislation or in accompanying codes of practice. It is good practice for guidance to be given on how powers should be exercised without being prescriptive. So the short answer to your question is yes. 82. The Chairperson: I thank you for your contribution. It seems to me, that a lot of work remains to be done in a very short space of time. I know that we would like to bring you back, but I do not know if time will allow us to do that. MINUTES OF EVIDENCE MONDAY, 5 FEBRUARY 2001 Members present: Witnesses: 83. The Chairperson: You are both very welcome. As you can tell, we have a tight deadline this morning. Thank you for the written submission to the Committee. Do you want to make a presentation? 84. Mr Fulton: I will say a few words of introduction to make the link to what we have submitted. I will, first, introduce the two of us. I am Assistant Chief Probation Officer and I have responsibility for services to prisoners, released prisoners, and prisoners' families. I am accountable to the Chief Executive and through him to the Probation Board. Alan Darnbrook is a probation manager with particular responsibilities in this area. That is why we have come to respond to you. 85. The Chairperson: Both of you have a big responsibility. 86. Mr Fulton: It does not weigh lightly, in that sense. 87. I will set the Probation Board for Northern Ireland in context. The Probation Board was set up in 1982, but before that it came under the Ministry of Home Affairs, and then under the Northern Ireland Office. 88. We have had a presence in prison for 35 years now, both inside and outside, and we have been involved with life sentence prisoners during all that period. We have supervised a proportion of those life sentence prisoners released from that time, right back from the end of the 1960s. That, in a sense, sets our experience. That experience has also meant that the Probation Board has made some comments about the actual structure. When you get to the end of our paper, we comment separately on the structure and what our experience tells us and on the role that we would have to play within that structure and what implications that has. 89. This has been part of a stage over the last couple of years. The Criminal Justice Review was looking at this issue, and the Probation Board had an opportunity both while it was considering that to speak to it and also after it publicised last spring. The board made a response to that review report. We did, in a sense, put up a model - maybe that is a bit fancy - or framework. 90. When it came to the response to this particular Order, I suppose that is the shape that we are using in that context. Our experience over that period pointed the Probation Board towards looking for a more open system, a system that was more transparent, in which everybody could see what the roles were. We comment on some aspects of that as we get into how that is translated because each of those issues about openness, in a sense, is addressed in the new Order. You may make judgements about how well they are addressed, but they are addressed. 91. From the Board's point of view, a large amount of our functions are in relation to courts. We are at home in that situation, and we are used to dealing with that. The Probation Board was looking for a much more judicial input into the actual process for life sentence prisoners. The setting of a tariff or the way in which the judge making the original sentence actually does that is important. 92. It is also important from the point of view of the prisoner and all those dealing with that person in the prison system. Up until recently it has not always been clear how long a tariff would be. Therefore there has been a lot of uncertainty all through sentence. 93. We were looking for a system that separated those factors. It is important to ensure that the length of time, retribution and deterrent elements are marked in a way that allows more focus on risk and rehabilitation. Retribution and deterrence are core in our work in helping prisoners to prepare for freedom. Once that process is complete, it is important to provide a report that gives that kind of risk assessment. If the Probation Service is to be involved in supervision, it must have the opportunity to ascertain what type of programme it will follow. 94. The Chairperson: With regard to the rehabilitation of life prisoners, what are the strengths and weaknesses of the draft Order? 95. Mr Fulton: There are many strengths in the draft Order. We would be able to move on from our current position. The strengths are to clarify the length of time the court is setting before release would be considered and the opportunity then to look at the release. The board wanted those stages to be judicially grounded. The first two stages are clearly grounded in the court. The third stage involves the independent body. If the independent body can specify the way in which it will operate - it can be assumed that the structure is to be established - a set of rules must be in place. Some of the weaknesses can be addressed when those rules are set out. 96. Mr J Kelly: Is the issue of discretionary life sentences to juveniles adequately covered? Take the Matt Lundy case. 97. Mr Fulton: Are you talking about discretionary life sentences? 98. Mr J Kelly: Yes. 99. Mr Fulton: My understanding is that there are certain safeguards relating to young persons who are sentenced at the Secretary of State's pleasure. Such cases will be referred at certain ages. The Secretary of State may, irrespective of the tariff, refer such cases to the commissioners, and there will be special treatment for under-18s, as I understand the Order. 100. There have not been many people in the discretionary lifer category in Northern Ireland. There are few in the overall system. There is likely to be an increase in that category, but there are good safeguards for the under-18's. The system here is limited, first because of the small number of prisons and, secondly, as a result of the comparatively small number of young prisoners in those institutions that maintain them for a long time. It is likely that they will be incorporated in the adult system in some way. 101. Mr J Kelly: In the sense you are part of the establishment, but is the Board actively involved in attempting to resolve the issues arising from your role in the Probation Service? 102. Mr Fulton: We see our role in the Probation Board as walking a middle path. It is our role to mediate between the requirements of the courts and the system that we operate, and the needs of the community on the outside. We also have to ascertain how we can provide a pathway for a past offender who wants to work in such a way that the risk is manageable in the community. Our role allows us to find pathways in the system. 103. Mrs E Bell: I have already declared an interest. My questions will reflect that. In paragraphs 29 and 30, it says "Where a supervisory element is part of post-release licence, we will have the opportunity to put forward a plan ." and "As part of the supervisory function of a life licencee . we would prepare Progress Reports .". 104. One of my concerns is that the licence is in force until death. What role does the Probation Board see itself as having? The way you have spelt it out in the paper is to try to mitigate the situation. Do you think that it needs to be looked at again, and perhaps amended, before the draft Order is implemented in order to see whether we could make arrangements so that the licence does not have to continue until the person dies? If he is rehabilitated, he should benefit from that. 105. That obviously involves extra work which will impact on you. Have you considered the extent of the impact, or are you happy enough to go along with this and act as liaison between the two? 106. Mr Fulton: I will let Alan Darnbrook answer part of that. From our point of view, the difference is between the licence and the supervised part of the licence. The licence being in operation is one issue, and that is pressure on anybody in that kind of situation. Our experience has been with the supervised element of the licence. Alan Darnbrook might say a few words about how that tends to work, because even under the current system we can review that. 107. Mrs E Bell: Do you think this draft Order improves that situation? 108. Mr Darnbrook: As was pointed out in paragraph 33 of the paper, we want to include a provision for the licence conditions to be withdrawn at an appropriate time when we feel that the person is fully rehabilitated and the risk is low enough that they do not pose any risk to the community. We achieve that by regular supervision by a supervising officer, regular monitoring of the supervision, assessments at intervals throughout that period and bringing in other agencies as required. Under the present system, a proposal is not normally made until after about five years of supervision. This varies according to the individual circumstances. If progress has been made to our satisfaction and the person is no longer a risk to the community in any form, we would then make a submission to the Secretary of State for the licence conditions to be lifted. From then on, we do not have any further statutory involvement with that person. However, we do offer ongoing voluntary contact and support, should that person require it at any period from then until death. 109. Mr Fulton: With some of the offences with which we will be dealing, it may take longer to clarify whether the person is likely to leave that kind of offending behind. There is research which shows a longer cycle, and we have to keep that in mind as we look at what the time span might be. In some situations, it might make sense to hold on to that kind of possibility for up to 10 years. 110. Mr B Hutchinson: You have just said something which I may have misunderstood. Did you say that you had made recommendations to the Secretary of State to have people's licences lifted after five years? 111. Mr Darnbrook: No. On occasion we make a recommendation that the supervision elements of their licence be varied after a time when we are satisfied that they have reached a stage of stability. 112. Mr B Hutchinson: In what kinds of cases do you have this supervision? 113. Mr Fulton: They are not the cases under the Sentence Review Commission. It is predominantly cases that have been dealt with by the Life Sentence Review Board, which are the de-scheduled - 114. Mr B Hutchinson: You are talking about non-political cases? 115. Mr Darnbrook: Yes, absolutely. 116. Mr B Hutchinson: Mr Fulton, you talked about safeguards for those sentenced at the Secretary of State's pleasure if those people are under 18. What are those safeguards? What is your opinion of recalls? Are there contradictions between the recalls and the court? Do you believe that too much attention is paid to trivial breaches? 117. Mr Fulton: I will answer the last one first. Recall is a difficult issue. As a supervising agency we need to be able to act quickly, and we need someone to make that decision. We are more than happy to deal with that, as in our other areas we go to court if necessary. We are quite happy to be as accountable as we need to be. We think that, whatever the legislation, it needs a mechanism whereby a quick decision can be made, and we have been in that situation and have sought that kind of decision making before. 118. Of course, the quicker people can go before the Commission the better. Our understanding of the legislation is that the Secretary of State will refer cases like that to the Commission. If it is not that kind of emergency, then my understanding is the legislation means it will go to the Commission before a decision about revoking the licence or about recall takes place. We accept that it should not be happening on poor or flimsy evidence and that we have to be more accountable about what we present. We are happy with that. We will look for the Commissioners to lay down requirements on what those hurdles will be before that happens. 119. Mr B Hutchinson: Have you come up against contradictions in the court? For example, have there been instances of the magistrate saying that there is no case to be answered but the licence has still been revoked? 120. Mr Fulton: Revoking the licence would not be a decision for the court at that point. Our understanding is that in cases that we have supervised there would be a decision about whether there was such seriousness. Quite often if the case was awaiting the outcome of the court, then review would take into account what the sentence was and the directions of the judge or magistrate before deciding on that. That is the kind of case which, if it is awaiting that decision, could be referred to the Commissioners for a decision. 121. Mr B Hutchinson: I ask because I checked back on some material released by the Probation Board in the early 1990s. It was claimed that a number of people were taken to court on assault charges, the magistrate threw them out and said there was no case to be answered as at least three of the cases were self-defence, yet all those people had their licences revoked. I was wondering what statistics you have on that. 122. Mr Fulton: We estimate that we have had five recalls in 20 years in that supervision element. There are aspects of this legislation which will make us more accountable in that situation, and there are also regulations that will make the Executive more accountable in its decision making. 123. If we can return to the cases of the 18-year-olds, I think it is not so much the facilities but the fact that they are separated, the tariff is likely to be lower in that age group and they would be reviewed at an earlier stage. There is an issue in there which I think has to come after the actual legislation. 124. The current system has some flexibility in it regarding the preparation for that kind of staged release. Certainly young people need opportunities for that to happen. However, it is not clear at this stage how we find a mechanism to ensure that this can take place in the new situation. The decision made by the Commissioners is about release, and that will be binding. There appear to be safeguards for young people. 125. Mr Paisley Jnr: The Order that we are considering asks you to provide, although it does not mention you, certain things in terms of the rehabilitation of an offender. I want to look at some of the practicalities and financial realities of that request. The courts, Commissioners and Secretary of State have demanded certain things that you are obliged to deliver. Have you the financial wherewithal to deliver such things on your current budget? Furthermore, can you give us a ballpark figure as to how much it will cost to deliver this request in order to achieve your statutory obligations? This includes your proposals - which are outlined at point 31 - regarding the withdrawal of a licence. Are those proposals in any way financially driven? You are saying that there are certain cases where the licence should be withdrawn - for example, there may be a concern in the community that, for certain crimes, there are high reoffending rates and people could drift into other areas where there are not adequate rehabilitation levels. 126. Moving on to the issue of the Commissioners, there is some suggestion that they should not be former members of the Executive, civil servants or prison governors. Should the Probation Board in Northern Ireland be in any way a part of the Commission team to consider the financial and practical realities of what is being asked of it? 127. Mr Fulton: From the Probation Board's point of view, the Order does not change the resource issue in itself because the number of prisoners that are in the system and were likely to come through under the old system, whichever part of legislation it is. Therefore resource in itself is not a block to us with regard to how this is to be implemented. Like any public body there are occasions when our resources are limited, and we must make priorities. This is high priority work and in the context of decisions that are to be made about funding this issue is one that would come at the top of the list. 128. There is currently £720,000 which is transferred from the Prison Service to the Probation Service so as to provide a service in prison. That will be one of the areas where the expectations will increase. We with the Prison Service would wish to provide individual and group programmes which assist prisoners to deal with the factors of risk and how they would reduce those factors. So there is a pressure there. There is further pressure in relation to multi-agency. At this time, we do employ psychologists. We have a relationship with two forensic psychiatrists in Northern Ireland. In terms of post-release, multi-disciplinary back-up, expectations will rise and there will be an increased need. Resources are not a prime worry to the service in relation to this Order. 129. With regard to the Commissioners, the Board is keen that there should be a separation between those making the decisions and those who provide the information. 130. The Board's feeling is that, at this point, we should not have staff of the Probation Board for Northern Ireland as Commissioners. We should obviously like their expertise to be represented among the Commissioners in some fashion, and we make some points about how that might be achieved. However, it is fundamental that we are happier coming to provide information, while others who are not involved make their decisions, challenging us about how we made ours. 131. Mr Paisley Jnr: This brings us back to the issue of resources. Are any of your proposals financially driven? 132. Mr Fulton: No. 133. Mr Paisley Jnr: If you had the resources, would you propose it? 134. Mr Fulton: No, it is not driven by that. It is an area of work where the decision is not made by an individual, but by a number of staff members. One examines the continuing possibilities in a case. Is the person involved living a safe life? Is there a likelihood of their doing anything? However, we currently have 22 supervised life sentence prisoners, and there are 70 to 80 in the prison system. That situation can be dealt with within our resources, allowing at least two probation officers on each case with a package of supervision. The numbers are workable at this stage. 135. Mr Paisley Jnr: Of those 22, how many cases would each probation officer take on? 136. Mr Fulton: They would be spread out geograph- ically, but it is an area of work where we certainly endeavour to have a member of the probation staff working with under 20 cases. We aim to achieve a ratio of 1:15 in that kind of situation. 137. Mr Attwood: The Human Rights Commission referred to its doubts in relation to the non-disclosure of confidential information to prisoners going before hearings. Do you have any concerns about non-disclosure of information to the Probation Board for Northern Ireland in its input into those arrangements? 138. Mr Fulton: Not at the moment. We have no reason to doubt the information we receive regarding the nature of offences. 139. Mr Attwood: Have you had any concerns in the past about that sort of information? 140. Mr Fulton: As far as I am aware, no. 141. The Chairperson: If the draft Order were enacted, how would the work of the Life Sentence Commissioners impact on that of the Probation Board for Northern Ireland? 142. Mr Fulton: I feel the earlier answers about resources covered most aspects. The main concern now will be how they wish to do business. A certain part is set out in the rules saying what a probation report to the board would achieve, but one of the main issues for us is finding ways to measure risk. What are their objective measurements? The expectation is that the Commissioners will begin to set out their understanding, which we must translate into our working practice. In our development of standards in relation to a new Order such as this, the Commissioners will be an important source of information on how we should do the work. 143. The Chairperson: The Commissioners and you will work together very closely on all these issues. 144. Mr Fulton: In the sense that they set the rules, yes. There will be a certain distance because of our different responsibilities, but, as the Commissioners develop their role, they will clearly set out how they determine risk, and we shall take that back to the Board and use it in our work. 145. Ms McWilliams: It is perhaps a difficult question for you to answer, but much of this will not change the nature of your work. Your experience has been in the risk of reoffending as well as in rehabilitation. You argue that the courts will look at retribution and detterence, so your major role will be on risk of reoffending. At the moment, you clearly have a great deal of expertise on that. 146. You could see a conflict of interest, if you, on the one hand are trying to provide information, and, on the other hand, are trying to provide decision making. In relation to Mr Paisley Jnr's point about decision makers, you suggest that you be excluded from the decision making of the Commissioner's role and simply be an information feeder. How much credence is given to that role? 147. Mr Fulton: In these cases it is given a lot. Of course, it is not always possible for us to know exactly what others think, but in the context of what we see of decision making in the current situation, the risk and management plans that we have put up, or the fact that they are not there, would be significant in deciding whether someone was ready for release. It is acknowledged that we have the role of going into the community with somebody, and it is taken into account if we are uncomfortable about that management plan. 148. Ms McWilliams: Have you managed to analyse how accurate you have been? What percentage have you got wrong? 149. Mr Darnbrook: I suppose that is reflected in the figure that Mr Fulton mentioned earlier. Over this time there were five requirements to recall because of risk behaviour in the community. It could possibly be argued that we may have got something wrong in those cases, although it must be pointed out that the time that each had spent in the community varied considerably. They had, in the main, reached considerable stability and were well on the road to rehabilitation when certain issues in their lives came up and caused this difficulty. Overall, looking at that figure, we have been reasonably successful in our assessments and the level of error has been quite low. 150. Mr Fulton: There is bottom line in that we are relieved to be able to sit here and say that nobody under supervision has recommitted a capital offence. It is important in our work in this area that it is rare in the UK and in European situations for that kind of reoffending to happen. 151. Mr Paisley Jnr: I find your answer very interesting. You say that an offender or a person under rehabilitation can be well on the road to rehabilitation when something peculiar or not obvious has caused them to reoffend. Do you think it is right, under any circumstance, to propose the removal of supervision if something unforeseen on the horizon could upset an offender and make him or her reoffend? Should there not be constant supervision until that person is deceased? 152. Mr Fulton: That line could be taken, although reoffending is not what Mr Darnbrook talked about. In the majority of cases it has been behaviour which has been of concern, rather than court decisions or a new offence. The balance of the judgement about the stability in a community is made on what supports are around. 153. That is the balance of the judgement which is made about what the stability in a community may be. What are the supports for a feedback mechanism if someone's behaviour deteriorates? The Probation Board would be much more reluctant to recommend the end of the supervision period if someone lived an isolated life with no bounds around them. 154. Mr Paisley Jnr: Again, this is resource driven. If you had the resources you would not need to make that proposal at all. 155. Mr Fulton: It is about acknowledging that someone has started a new life and is getting on with it. In some cases it is obvious within a year of someone being released from prison that that person is so different from the person who committed the original offence. Part of our work is helping to lay down the foundation stones of that new life with a job or accommodation. Some people move on, but then some life event may hold them back and the Probation Board has to try to get them through that. Your point is very important, but quite often it is about looking at the range of supports and extended supports that they have, and whether there are feedback systems around. 156. Mr B Hutchinson: You gave us very scant details about why the person went back into prison, but you said there were only five people in 30 years, which suggests that it was five out of quite a number. To use resources to track or supervise those people for the rest of their lives would be a total waste. We could be spending the money on preventative work, rather than on rehabilitation. 157. Prior to the ceasefires there were 375 Loyalist and Republican life sentence prisoners on the street. In my understanding, only two were put back in prison and not for acts of violence. They were brought back on very scant evidence, which was contradicted by the courts. I am not questioning what you have said, but you should give us those statistics in writing. We do not need names but we need to know the total number of people of whom five reoffended, how long those people were in the community, and how long the supervision lasted. Hansard is reporting this and the statistics you have provided are not complete. If someone comes up with another question, those statistics could look foolish. If we could have those in detail, that would solve all the problems. 158. Mr Fulton: As we said at the beginning, we were referring to those people who were under our supervision. 159. The Chairperson: Thank you for your contribution this morning. I know you have a very difficult task, but are you making progress on the situation? 160. Mr Fulton: We are well bedded in. It is an area of work which is planned and lasts for a long time. It is different from other areas of work which are much more immediate. It has a stability even in our agency with regard to the way in which we allocate resources. MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TUESDAY, 6 FEBRUARY 2001 Members present: Witnesses: 161. The Deputy Chairperson: Thank you for coming, Prof Jackson, perhaps would you speak to your submission first and the Committee will ask questions afterwards. 162. Prof Jackson: Thank you for inviting me to give evidence on the issue of life sentences. A paper was faxed to you this morning by my colleague, Prof Livingstone, although you may not have had an opportunity to read it yet. I will outline briefly some of the points in his paper. 163. Prof Livingstone and I broadly welcome the draft Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001. We do so for two reasons. The first is that the Order takes a principled approach towards the issue of life sentences for prisoners. By that I mean that the Order makes it clear that the liberty of the subject is a matter which primarily should be the concern of independent judicial figures rather than politicians. 164. Obviously, I say this with some deference to members of the Committee, who are politicians. The point many people have been making for some years - for this Order reflects an approach we see being taken throughout Europe - is that sentencing and the larger issue of releasing life prisoners are better left in the hands of independent judicial figures rather than politicians. The worry, as regards politicians being involved, is the perception that political decisions or influences will govern their views. Where an independent judicial figure sits alongside experts, there should at least be some satisfaction that true impartiality governs these most important issues. 165. As someone who has taken part in the Criminal Justice Review, I would say that the Order is a broad endorsement of the view expressed in the review that these issues are a matter for judicial figures. The Order makes the point that there are two distinct issues in life sentences. One is what the tariff should be. By "tariff", I mean the term necessary to ensure deterrence and retribution - in other words, the length of time a prisoner deserves. The Order clearly says that that should be a matter for the judge, who, when sentencing someone to a life sentence, should state what he or she feels the tariff should be. 166. The second issue is protecting the public. Even when someone has served the tariff, he may still be a danger to the public for he may not be seen to have sufficiently reformed, therefore still posing a threat. That issue also requires an independent judgement. The Order says that, in future, that should be the decision of the Life Sentence Commissioners, who have been set up to replace the old Life Sentence Review Board, which formerly made recommendations exclusively to Ministers and the Secretary of State. The Commissioners will obviously decide the question of risk to the public in their own right. For the above reasons I feel that the Order is a principled approach to the issue. 167. Another reason why I have broadly welcomed the Order is that it brings the area into compliance with human rights legislation. The United Kingdom has now incorporated the European Convention on Human Rights into its law, and it is clearly important that all its regions be seen to comply. That means not only complying with the Convention itself but also with Strasbourg court decisions which have emerged from it. 168. In several decisions, the European Court of Human Rights has made it very clear that matters regarding discretionary life sentence inmates are for an independent court body to decide under Article 5.4 of the European Convention. Recently, because of the Thompson and Venables case in England, this category has come to include sentences relating to juveniles under the age of 17 and the issue of whether they are a risk. 169. The European Court of Human Rights has not yet addressed the issue of mandatory life sentences and whether an independent judicial figure should take the decision to release prisoners. 170. Experts more knowledgeable than myself have pointed out that the thrust of the recent decision in the Thompson and Venables case is that decisions relating to the issuing of a tariff are sentencing matters, which really ought to be taken by a judge. The decision on the Thompson and Venables case, in relation to issues such as release, seems to go in the direction of saying that such matters should be for judges and not politicians. 171. I want to make those two basic points. First, the Order is a principled approach to sentencing and, secondly, it follows a human rights approach. A number of details could be raised about the drafting of the Order, and Prof Livingstone has provided the Committee with a paper 'Comments on Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001', which contains detailed points in pages 2 to 4 examining the way in which the Order has been drafted. 172. I do not know how valuable it would be for the Committee if I go into those issues in detail. There are one or two problems with Article 5 of the Order, which is not totally clear. The Article seems to suggest that people may still get life tariffs; that the judge, when sentencing someone to life, may say that the person should serve life to satisfy deterrence and retribution. 173. Some people say that that is not the right approach, particularly for juveniles, and that it does not go along with some other Human Rights Conventions. It is an argument of principle as to whether juveniles should be given a life tariff, and it should be taken up. In any event, there are difficulties with the drafting of Article 5 of the Order in that it seems that even though a life tariff has been given, the Secretary of State may later refer the case to the Life Sentence Commissioners. That would happen when the Secretary of State takes the view that it would be appropriate to do so, but it seems to me that the circumstances in which it should happen are not terribly clear. 174. There are other detailed points in Prof Livingstone's paper. One relates to the substance of the test in the Order that the Commissioners have to apply. The Order suggests that the test is whether the Commissioners are satisfied that it is no longer necessary for a person to be detained in order to protect the public. That seems to be what is laid down in Article 6(4)(b) as the crucial test for the Commissioners. However Article 3(4)(2) suggests that the Commissioners should take other criteria into account, one of those being the issue of rehabilitation. Is the Order clear enough about what the tests should be? Some Commissioners might take the view that while someone is no longer a threat to the public he might be better rehabilitated inside prison rather than outside it. If they take such a view, the suggestion seems to be that they should not release the prisoner. However, Article 6(4) seems to suggest that the only criterion is that of risk; is the person a risk to the public? 175. I feel there is a problem about what the tests should be. There may also be an issue as to where the burden of proof should lie. At the moment, it is for the prisoner to show that he is no longer a risk to the public. That is not stated clearly in the Order, and there is an argument that - given that this is an issue of liberty - we should be discussing whether the onus should be with the Secretary of State to make the case that a person remains a threat to the public, and not vice versa. Other points are made in Prof Livingstone's paper, which I will address, but I was asked to give a brief introduction and I am conscious of the time. 176. The Deputy Chairperson: You have raised many concerns that we identified. It may be useful for Members to ask some questions to expand on that. With respect to human rights, does the current law in Northern Ireland governing the sentencing to life imprisonment and detention at the Secretary of State's pleasure comply with all relevant human rights law? 177. Prof Jackson: No, it does not comply, particularly with regard to people being detained under the Secretary of State's pleasure. The Thompson and Venables case made it clear that issues involving the sentencing and release of prisoners are matters for a judicial body. At present, that is not the case. Although the Life Sentences Review Board can make a recommendation to the Secretary of State, it is merely a recommendation. At present, the Board is not an independent judicial body that would satisfy the requirements of the European Convention. 178. The Deputy Chairperson: Does the current law in Northern Ireland governing the release on licence of those on life imprisonment and those being detained at the Secretary of State's pleasure comply with all relevant human rights law? 179. Prof Jackson: No, for much the same reasons, such as the recent European Court decisions. 180. Mr B Hutchinson: I agree that politicians should not make these decisions. However, I am not sure that there is any such thing as an independent judicial figure, particularly when some people have such right-wing views that they want to hang you, or keep you locked up, rather than try to rehabilitate you. I am not sure whether it is worse to have an independent judicial figure or a politician. 181. I am concerned about how the tariff works in England. If we take the case of Private Thain, he committed his crime in Northern Ireland, but went to England. He should have been sentenced under Northern Ireland law, which would have meant that the sentence would not have been reviewed for 10 years, according to the Life Sentences Review Board. However, his sentence was reviewed after 18 months. My understanding is that in England the sentence is reviewed after 18 months, then again after five years, eight years and 10 years. How can that happen if there is a tariff? 182. Prof Jackson: In England, the Home Secretary has made such decisions and, over the years, successive Home Secretaries have been very jealous about their power in this regard. They believe that they should have the sole decision and, therefore, should keep discretion as to what they think the tariff period should be. 183. In Northern Ireland, the Life Sentences Review Board has developed some guidelines as to when a case can first be looked at. However, in England, the Home Secretary has kept that decision very much to himself, up to now, on the grounds that his discretion should not be fettered by anybody and that he has to reflect public opinion. To some extent, that is what this argument is about; should decisions be taken by politicians to reflect public opinion, with the danger that there may be inconsistent treatment by the Home Secretary. 184. The case you mentioned was obviously exceptional. To some extent there still are guidelines in England, but I think Ministers there have been very jealous about their discretion. Of course, insofar as mandatory life sentences are concerned - for murder, in which a life sentence must be imposed - the position has not changed in England yet. This Order would take us beyond England in this respect because it would be handing over such decisions to other people. 185. Mr B Hutchinson: If somebody has been sentenced to life imprisonment why would you need to set a tariff? You do not have to release anybody? Do you think that deciding the tariff on the day somebody is sentenced is a punitive action, or would you prefer to see how somebody has been rehabilitated and then decide when he should be released? Do you understand what I am asking? 186. Prof Jackson: Yes, I see your point. In practice, people are invariably released even after being sentenced to life imprisonment. So, even though we talk about a life sentence, that hardly ever happens, although there are obviously exceptions. We are then faced with devising procedures for the release of people sentenced to life, and perhaps one of the best ways is by dividing up the issues. The first issue is what length of time society requires the person to serve in prison to satisfy retribution, deterrence, and so on. That should be for the judge to decide at the trial. 187. Following that period, we have to look at issues such as rehabilitation and risk. We have to consider individual cases and whether it is appropriate, with the tariff period having been served, for that person to be released. That seems to me to be a separate issue, but a very important one. It is so important that it is one that a judicial body should probably take - [Interruption] 188. Mr B Hutchinson: There is a term in the Order, "risk to the public", which you referred to earlier. Do you think that term could be better defined? 189. Prof Jackson: That is a very good point and it is one made by Prof Livingstone also. In England, when the Parole Board makes recommendations - and I stress that they are recommendations, except in the cases of those on discretionary life sentences - guidelines have been given to it as to what is meant by risk to an individual. These include the factors that should be taken into account, such as whether you should look at what that person has done in prison, their past, and so on. 190. This Order does not really give any guidelines, nor does it allow for guidelines to be made. One would not necessarily expect a matter of detail like that to be in the Order but one would like to see provision being made in the Order for guidelines or directions to be established, perhaps with public consultation. The Life Review Sentence Commissioners could actually go about that themselves. But, however it is done, there is a strong argument for it. 191. Mr Murphy: Article 11 of the Order ensures that the Secretary of State still has the final say, but it is not made clear as to what criteria governs him, such as secret reports and so on. Do you have an opinion on that? 192. Prof Jackson: That is a good point because the Order is looking at what should happen from now on. This creates an important question about what should happen with existing life prisoners, and the Order suggests that should be a matter for the Secretary of State to refer to the Commissioners. One would not need to have that system. There are other ways of doing that, but the Order clearly says that it should be a matter for the Secretary of State. 193. Mr R Hutchinson: Mr B Hutchinson's questions were about tariffs. If someone is given a tariff, of say 25 years, is there a mechanism by which they can serve less than that? 194. Secondly, as we hear a lot about human rights, where do you see the victims' human rights coming into this whole scenario? 195. Prof Jackson: As regards your first question, it would not be a possibility under the Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001 for people to be released before the tariff has been served. The judge sets the tariff at the trial, and that period has to be served. The Life Sentence Review Commissioners will only look at the question of release once that period has been served. 196. Mr B Hutchinson: Can you explain the difference between the tariff set by the judge and a recommended sentence that he gives? There is confusion here. Are they not two different things? 197. Prof Jackson: Judges have tended to say "I recommend this," or, "I recommend that". Regarding mandatory life sentences for murder, the Secretary of State has had to consult with a judge - judges may not have said it in public - as to what the tariff period should be. That is going to be changed under the Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001. 198. Mr B Hutchinson: What I am trying to draw out is that that is different from the judge saying at a trial, "You have to do 25 years". 199. Prof Jackson: It will be stronger now - if I may say so - for it will no longer be just a recommendation. The suggestion is that the judge will set the tariff and that will be the period to be served. 200. Mr R Hutchinson: Are you saying that there will be no early release? 201. Prof Jackson: That is right. As I understand it, the intention of the Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001 is that there will be no release until the tariff period has been served, except on exceptional compassionate grounds. 202. The Deputy Chairperson: What about the judge recommending a sentence? Will that be out? 203. Prof Jackson: That is right. Recommendations are no longer going to be in. It is about setting the tariff and that is it: full stop. 204. Mr R Hutchinson: What about the victims' human rights? Say someone commits rape and is sentenced to something like 3 months. Should there be input from victims, or would that be too emotional? Should they have any say? 205. Prof Jackson: That is a very good question. It is very important for the sentencer, at trial, to ensure that he or she is aware of the impact on the victim. There are mechanisms in certain other countries that allow victims to give "impact statements" directly to the court. 206. The Criminal Justice Review did not actually go so far as to recommend that that should be introduced in Northern Ireland. They suggested that it should still be for the prosecuting body to bring the experiences of the victim to the court, and not for the victim to come directly to court. However it is done, sentences have to have regard to it. That is why the tariff is so important -the tariff needs to represent that view in the sentence. 207. Mr R Hutchinson: That is an excellent answer and I appreciate it, but maybe I phrased the question wrongly. The legislation provides for the Commissioners to discuss whether a person is suitable for release. I was thinking about that particular point, rather than at trial. 208. A victim could be blinded and might want retribution. Should there be some mechanism somewhere for the representation of victims in that particular area - be it a female who has been raped or a child who has been abused? Is that not workable? 209. Prof Jackson: That certainly would be possible, but then the whole test that the Commissioners would have to apply would be different. The Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001 says that now, once that tariff period has been served - and that should represent the interests of the victim - the only ground that the Commissioners should be looking at is risk to the public. That question of risk to the public might involve the views of the victims, if they feel that they are still at risk. That would be relevant. 210. Mr R Hutchinson: I fear that the Commissioners will replace the Secretary of State, which will not make a difference. 211. The Deputy Chairperson: We will have to consider that point. 212. Prof Jackson: We will have to see how that will work in practice. 213. Mr Attwood: You said that the question of prisoner releases should not be considered by politicians. However, that was the primary point made by the Human Rights Commission in its critique of the proposed legislation. Politicians have an extensive role in the proposed procedures. For example, Article 5(4) confers discretion on the Secretary of State to "at the appropriate stage direct that the early release provisions shall apply." 214. Article 5(5) states that the Secretary of State specifies the part of the sentence that must be served before early release provisions apply. Article 9(2) states that the Secretary of State can call a released prisoner to prison without consulting the Life Sentence Review Commissioners. The list goes on. 215. The Secretary of State has a strong involvement in determining what occurs operationally. The structures of an independent process are in place, but political involvement at critical points remains. That political involvement could mean that on the one hand, a prisoner could be recalled, or on the other, he could go forward to review. The system only determines what the Secretary of State allows it to determine. Is that a fair criticism of the proposal? 216. I say that because the Secretary of State is retaining enormous powers, which can be seen in the Police (Northern Ireland) Bill, The Flags (Northern Ireland) Order 2000, and so forth. That is a cause for concern and reflects the culture in the British Government that they want value for their pound on one hand, and a role beyond their remit on the other. 217. Prof Jackson: That criticism is fair with regard to existing life prisoners. There is a problem because, while the Order looks forward, it deals with the question of existing life prisoners and suggests that that will still be a matter for the Secretary of State to refer. So far as the future is concerned, your criticism goes a little bit too far. The Secretary of State's involvement will be limited to situations in which the judge has set a life tariff, meaning "Life should mean life". The setting of a life tariff is rare. Of all of the convicted murderers in England, very few - if any - are serving a life tariff. Admittedly those are controversial cases and a judge could say, "Life should mean life". However, under Article 5 of the draft Order that is the only circumstance in which the Secretary of State has the power of review and can send the case to the Life Sentence Review Commissioners. 218. The appointment of the Commissioners could be an issue for concern. If the Secretary of State is to appoint these Commissioners, one might like to see greater independence in the process. It is also important to know why there is no Life Sentence Board. These Commissioners will be supported by civil servants from the Prison Service. If, on the other hand, there was an independent board of which the Commissioners would be part - similar to the Criminal Cases Review Commission or other such bodies - then it would be staffed entirely by their own people. That would create a culture of independence that would be greater than under the present provisions. 219. Mr Attwood: The culture of independence has been undermined further by the Criminal Justice Review. The Probation Board has been brought into the mainstream of the criminal justice family. 220. Mr Dalton: I am particularly interested in the comments you made on the possibility of a whole life tariff being handed down by the court. Is it your contention that the court should not, under any circumstances, be able to award a whole life tariff to a defendant, or is the objection simply that the Secretary of State is the one who determines whether or not that will have effect? 221. Prof Jackson: There are two different objections there. The first one is as question of principle: should there be a possibility of a life tariff? My own view is that for people who are under 18, it is a very sweeping thing at that time in someone's life to say that the tariff should be life, and that life should mean life. I would certainly object, and I think that human rights provisions go along with that. There are strong objections to that for people under 18. 222. As for adults, it would have to be a very rare case, and no doubt there would be views either way about whether there should ever be a situation like that. The second objection I have is that too much discretion is given to the Secretary of State, once there is a whole life tariff, to decide when to send the case to the Life Sentence Review Commissioners. The Order should be clear about the circumstances under which the case should be referred to the Commissioners. 223. Mr Dalton: Schedule 2, line 15, allows the Secretary of State to say that certain information should not be disclosed to the prisoner or his representatives. What is the major problem that you have with that? Do you not foresee circumstances in which information may need to be confidential? Do you not think that the appointment of a special advocate deals with the article 6 problem? 224. Prof Jackson: The appointment of the special advocate goes quite a long way towards meeting human rights objections, but I do not think it goes the whole way. As I understand it, under the proposed Order the Secretary of State can deem certain information to be confidential. However, human rights judgements in Europe have tended to say that when the Secretary of State or Government want to classify certain information as confidential, they should get the court to sanction it. They also say that there should be a judgement by the court to make that information properly confidential. There is an independent judgement on how confidential it is. Only then, if it is not confidential, should it be disclosed, but at least the court establishes that. That certainly seems to be what happens in criminal cases. There was a case last year wherein it was made very clear that it was a breach of Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights, in a criminal case, for the prosecutor to decide what should be privileged. 225. Mr J Kelly: In this legislation we are looking to the future, not the past. We are looking at a different scenario. The notion of retribution and deterrence might not have been as applicable to those who considered themselves political prisoners as it might be to other categories of prisoners. 226. On the question of political interference and having independent reviews, you mentioned that "Life is life" very rarely comes into play, except for Hindley and Brady, for example, which is very much a political issue. The Bulger case was somewhat different. They were two juveniles who had to make a transition to adulthood. However, there is a wealth of information to show that eight years imprisonment can have a debilitating effect. Therefore, fulfilling the criterion of public safety becomes more difficult, rather than less, for a prisoner who has served more than eight years. Would you like to comment on that? Understandably, the ability to fulfil a rehabilitative role is diminished. 227. Prof Jackson: That is an important question and it raises many important issues. As to what extent there should be rehabilitative schemes for prisoners in prison, present resources do not often allow for that. That results in the situation that you mentioned, namely that people who serve a number of years in prison end up being unable to cope with life outside. We should be doing the opposite, that is, trying to create conditions for them in which they can deal with life outside. 228. In setting the tariff, there are many considerations to be taken into account. The victim is a consideration at that stage. You have to look at that, at what society will accept, and so on. You cannot look at the issue entirely from a rehabilitative point of view. That is a matter for the judge. The importance of this legislation is that once that is set, these matters of risk need to be looked at in the context of what prisoners, in prison, are given to do. Guidelines on risk and resources are important. 229. Mr J Kelly: Is it the relatives of the victim that we are concerned with, rather than the actual victim - particularly if we presume that the victim, in the case of a murder, is no longer looking at retribution? Could that also become emotive? 230. Ms McWilliams: There is no easy way to put that. 231. Mr J Kelly: For example, I was in prison during the 1950s, when people who were non-political who were in for murder got out after seven years. 232. Ms McWilliams: We are looking at the human rights implications when we talk about the importance of guidelines for risk assessment. Clearly, that means reoffending as well as deterrence and retribution. You mentioned English provisions in relation to some guidance. Can we see the guidance that is currently available to the Parole Board? 233. Secondly, who should produce that guidance? I understand why you are concerned that that is not set out in the Order. Although there may be some doubts as to whether it is the responsibility of the Secretary of State, nonetheless it could help the Commissioners. Since we are talking about risk assessment in general terms, it is possible to look at what is currently available, but perhaps we should also look at how we can build on that. 234. Mr R Hutchinson: Do you agree that the human rights of the victim are as important as the rights of the perpetrator? 235. Ms McWilliams: I want Professor Jackson to answer that question. 236. Prof Jackson: I can make available the guidance that is provided to the Parole Board in England for mandatory life sentence prisoners there. It was drawn up by the Home Secretary. As you say, there is an issue as to whether it is appropriate that the Secretary of State should be responsible for that. It is not clear who should be doing it. 237. However, these guidelines are something that the Commissioners will have to evolve over time. It would be a good exercise for them to engage in consultation with the public and with people like yourselves in order to draft those. That must be done in a way that appears to be more open and transparent, rather than how it was in England, where it was done mostly by civil servants for the Home Secretary. 238. A key point is that initially one would like to see some guidelines, or at least provision in the Order for these guidelines to be drawn up. We will be calling those people more into account than at present. Their job is to look at risk, but there is no indication as to how they are to do that. 239. Ms McWilliams: If the guidelines were transparent and published it would take out the element of discretion. 240. Prof Jackson: That is exactly right. 241. Ms McWilliams: It would also address the issue from both sides. 242. Prof Jackson: Issues will be raised about the extent to which the victims should be taken into account. It would be much better if that issue were transparently addressed. That would allay public concerns as to what they should do. 243. The Deputy Chairperson: I think that that is indeed necessary. We would all agree on that, and that is a very good point to end on. Thank you for your submission. If you can let us have the further information that Ms McWilliams requested, that will be helpful to us in our consideration. I know that you are as busy as we are; it was very good of you to appear before us, and your submission was very interesting. APPENDIX 3 LIST OF WITNESSES Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission Professor Brice Dickson, Chief Commissioner Probation Board for Northern Ireland Mr Brendan Fulton, Assistant Chief Probation Officer The Queen's University of Belfast Professor John Jackson, Director, Institute of Criminology and Criminal Justice (speaking in a personal capacity)
APPENDIX 4 LIST OF WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS TO THE COMMITTEE
APPENDIX 5 WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS WRITTEN SUBMISSION BY: This is very much a first draft document and should be considered as such. It is not the final document that the Northern Ireland Association for the Care and Resettlement of Offenders (NIACRO) will be producing. However, given the time constraints concerning the request by the Ad Hoc Committee I am submitting this document on the understanding that those reading it are aware that this is not NIACRO's final position on the matter. The material does give an indication of the organisation's general response. INTRODUCTION Since the abolition of capital punishment, the life sentence is the harshest punishment that the law allows. It is mandatory in the case of a conviction for murder and can be imposed for a wide range of other serious crimes. The idea behind the sentence is that some crimes are so heinous - and might once have been punishable by death - that they deserve permanent exclusion from society, incarceration for the rest of natural life. In practice, the life sentence has never meant actual imprisonment until death. The length of time served can vary between a couple of years and over twenty, with a very few cases where there is no likely prospect of release. Faith is kept with the concept of whole life imprisonment in that release of a lifer is on licence with the Executive having the right of recall. Nonetheless, the reality is that the life sentence (and detention at the Secretary of State's pleasure for juveniles) are indeterminate prison sentences. One of the main questions, then, is how decisions are made on when to release lifers from custody. Historically, in the UK, decision on release has always been made by the executive - in theory a power of the Crown, in practice exercised by Ministers. The Crown is held to be the "fountainhead of justice" and therefore has the right to release people from sentences of the court. Constitutionally this power is expressed in the Royal Prerogative of Mercy. Similarly, the view has been that, once the courts have given someone a life sentence it is only the Crown, as the sovereign of the courts of justice as well as of the Executive, which can exercise the power of release. Unfortunately, the power of release also implies the power to keep incarcerated. The refusal to release in any given case therefore is the same in practice as sentencing a person to a further period of imprisonment. The view has been taken, and a number of court rulings have confirmed, that the exercise by the Executive of this power is contrary to human rights and offends against the principle that no-one shall be deprived of liberty except by proper judicial process. As the Explanatory Document to the draft Order makes clear, the government is concerned that present arrangements may be contrary to the Human Rights Act 1998 which incorporates the European Convention on Human Rights into domestic law. PAST PRACTICE IN NORTHERN IRELAND From 1972 to 1981, the Secretary of State took decisions on lifer release without much public or formal procedure surrounding the process, apart from consulting the judiciary. In the early eighties, however, the first persons sentenced to life arising out of the current phase of troubles were coming to the time when they might reasonably be considered for release. A "Life Sentences Review Board" was set up, which combined civil servants and various experts, to advise the Secretary of State. In 1984 an Explanatory Memorandum made the system public and described some of its principles of operation. There was much opposition to this process as it purported to use psychological and social information to assess the risk posed by individuals even though the vast majority of lifers, at this time, were politically motivated. It also implied that those who broke their paramilitary links could be assessed better and therefore were more likely to be released earlier. The system also introduced the "working out scheme" which involved a gradual release from prison over a period of months while the prisoner worked during the day in the community. All lifers were considered by the Board after serving ten years, although internal civil service reviews took place earlier, and all SOSp's after eight years. The Board first had to consider what the "tariff" would be, to reflect the seriousness of the offence, and then whether the prisoner was a continuing threat to the public. If a recommendation was made to release, the original trial judge, if available, or the current Lord Chief Justice would be consulted as to their views. The Secretary of State would then make a decision on the release date. In spite of its political problems, the system rubbed along reasonably effectively. 456 lifers have so far been released under that scheme and very few have reoffended. The Life Sentence Review Board is, however, only advisory and a politician ends up taking the decision on release. Apart from being contrary to human rights, that fact always gave rise to the perception that political factors, rather than the circumstances of the individual case, might influence decisions. The current Order is designed to replace this system. THE ISSUES INVOLVED Some of the issues involved in constructing a mechanism for the release of life sentence prisoners are as follows:
These are some of the matters that must be considered when examining the draft Order. IMMEDIATE BACKGROUND TO THE ORDER As a consequence of the introduction of the Human Rights Act 1998, the government undertook a review of prison-related legislation to check that it was compliant with this new law. It felt that section 23 of the Prison Act (Northern Ireland) 1953 was not in line with human rights standards. At the same time the Review into the Criminal Justice System, set up under the Belfast Agreement, examined the life sentence review procedure. During the course of this Review, the Sentence Review Commission, established by the Agreement to release politically motivated prisoners, was carrying out its work effectively. The independence of the Commissioners, the system of hearings and the relative transparency of their criteria, made for giving the process a high degree of legitimacy. In its evidence to the Criminal Justice Review, NIACRO proposed that: "The current work of the Sentence Review Commission particularly with regard to the conduct of substantive hearings should be examined as a potential model to replace the Life Sentence Review Board." The Review agreed and the government has now decided to build on the experience, and actually the structure and administration, of that Commission as the basis of the new procedure for releasing lifers. It proposes the appointment of Life Sentence Review Commissioners to consider and direct the release of all life sentence and SOSp prisoners. COMMENT ON THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORDER Article 3 and Schedule 1 - the Commissioners This is the core of the draft Order in that it establishes an independent commission made up of a range of experts. The Commissioners will be appointed on a clear contract and can only be dismissed for cause and after consultation with the Lord Chief Justice. Commissioners will be paid and they will have their own staff and premises. It is also important that the Chair of the Commissioners is obligated to produce an Annual Report. NIACRO fully supports this procedure and the mix of expertise suggested. It ought to be made clear, however, that the expertise of the Commissioners is only required so that they will appreciate the significance of various aspects of the evidence presented to them. Their role is quasi-judicial and decision-making must be based on evidence not on impressions. Article 4, Schedule 2 and the Draft Rules Schedule 2 provides for the Secretary of State to issue a Statutory Instrument as Rules for the Commissioners and a draft is presented. The Schedule provides that the Rules can cater for the allocation of cases to panels of Commissioners, lay down regulation about types of evidence and witnesses and exclude the prisoner and his representative from hearings in particular circumstances. The first substantive Rule (3) provides for the appointment of three-person panels to hear cases which must include a legally qualified Commissioner and, ideally, either a psychiatrist or psychologist. This seems perfectly reasonable. Rule 5 deals with the issue of representation of the prisoner. In principle, a prisoner may appoint anyone, including a lawyer, to represent him. The Rule says, however, that the Commissioners must consent to that person being a serving prisoner, an ex-lifer or anyone with an unspent conviction. We can see no reason for this discrimination, particularly as security concerns are dealt with elsewhere. Again, the prisoner is, quite properly, given the right to be accompanied by someone other than his representative, but that is qualified by saying that the prison governor (most hearings will be held in the relevant prison) must agree. Again, no good reason is adduced for this restriction. We support the ability of the Commissioners to appoint a suitable person to represent a hitherto un-represented prisoner with his consent. Perhaps a panel of such suitable persons could be established. Rules 7 to 13 deal with the conduct of hearings. Much of this is unexceptionable and appears to meet the standards of due process. There are some elements of concern, however. Paragraphs 7 and 8 of Rule 10 allow the exclusion of the prisoner and his representative when withheld or confidential information is being considered. These two categories are created in Rule 14(2) and Rule 15. "Withheld information" is material which the Secretary of State believes would "adversely affect the health or welfare of the prisoner or others" if it were disclosed. At first sight, this is a paternalistic and unnecessary restriction and is, clearly, an offence against due process. At the very least, government ought to make clear -on the record, in Hansard, so that it could be used as indicative in any judicial review - what its understanding of the practical intention of this section is. "Confidential information" is material which, again in the opinion of the Secretary of State (meaning, in practice, his security advisers) would lead to commission of an offence, prejudice security or harm the public interest. It is assumed that this power is designed particularly for any further "terrorist" cases. It is, typically, too wide and general. The temptation will be to use such powers in any difficult case. Rule 16 does allow for the appointment by the Attorney General of a "special advocate" to represent the prisoner's interests in relation to dealing with such information. Strangely, however, this special advocate is barred from any communication with the prisoner or his representative except with the permission of the panel. He or she would therefore be unable to get a rounded view of the context of the case. The other rules make detailed arrangements about the conduct of cases and raise no particular issues of substance. Article 5 This Article places the burden of setting "the tariff" on the trial court based on satisfying "the requirements of retribution and deterrence". Obviously this is a subjective test but will be appealable and subject to case law. Given the continuing existence of the indeterminate character of life sentences this is probably the right manner for the decision on the tariff to be made. This Article also makes specific provision for the imposition of a "whole life" tariff, meaning that the court will direct that the case should never be referred to the Commissioners for consideration for release. It may well be considered that it is inappropriate for a trial court ever to take the decision that a person should spend the rest of their natural life in gaol irrespective of how conditions or circumstances may change in subsequent years. However, there is provision for this "whole life" tariff to be overriden. If the person sentenced was under 18 when he committed the offence the Secretary of State must, at some unspecified point, refer the case to the Commissioners. In other words, the Minister has to take up the burden of deciding on the actual tariff in these cases. It is impossible to see any justification, other than the immediate satisfaction of public opinion, for a whole life sentence to be passed by the court in the first place on a person under 18. Moreover, the Secretary of State may decide, in the case of an adult given a whole life tariff, to refer the case to the Commissioners anyway, when he or she considers they have served long enough. Again this raises the desirability of a court passing a sentence which a politician can overturn. It might be considered that, if such a power is to exist, as in all humanity it probably should, why it should be given to a politician rather than to the independent Commissioners. It would be better for all cases to be referred to the Commissioners either at the end of a fixed tariff or after a set period of time for their second opinion first, on the tariff itself and, second, on the desirability of release. It is hard to see how this retained power for the Secretary of State complies with the standards of human rights and due process elsewhere upheld. Article 6 This is the Article that gives the substantive power to direct the release of a lifer to the Commissioners and obliges the Secretary of State to release such a person on licence. The test that the Commissioners must apply is that they must be satisfied "that it is no longer necessary for the protection of the public from serious harm that the prisoner should be confined." This is a curious formulation. First, it assumes that it was at some point necessary to confine the prisoner for the protection of the public. Yet this whole system of release is based on the long held view that the issues of retribution and deterrence and that of the potential dangerousness of a prisoner are two separate and distinct matters. It is quite possible and usual for a murder to be the result of one-off and unique circumstances - the murderer must be imprisoned to mark society's abhorrence of the act, but he or she is of no further danger to the public. This system recognises that by ensuring that cases are referred to the Commissioners immediately the tariff period is up, It would be more logical, then, to replace the words "no longer" with "not". The second curious and seriously problematic aspect is that the Commissioners are required to be satisfied of a negative - that the prisoner is not harmful. There is no reference to the standard of proof required ("beyond reasonable doubt" or "on the balance of probabilities" being the two usual standards) but it is widely held to be difficult if not impossible to prove a negative. The formulation in the draft Order sounds safe - the implication is that the Commissioners are satisfied that there is no risk to the public. In fact, it is impossible to be satisfied that there is no risk and so, to that extent, the formulation is meaningless. It would be far better, and much easier in judicial terms, for the test to be put in positive terms. For example, that there be no release: "if the Commissioners are satisfied that there is substantive evidence that the public would be at risk of serious harm if the prisoner were to be released." This would mean that positive evidence of risk would have to be produced which then the prisoner could challenge. It might be necessary to do more work around the formulation, "substantive evidence", but the point is that a positive can be demonstrated, to whatever level of proof required, whereas a negative cannot. This factor is particularly important in cases where the prisoner insists on maintaining his or her innocence. Where this is the case, they clearly will not participate in programmes designed to address offending behaviour nor will they express remorse for what they have done. Given that the authorities who decide on release have to assume that the verdict of the court was correct and that the prisoner is in fact guilty, the logical assumption is that their refusal to recognise that, to express remorse and to try and change their character is evidence of future dangerousness. The result can be refusal to release the prisoner. This is especially distressing in cases of miscarriage of justice. The recent case of Stephen Downing, now released on bail pending an appeal against his conviction, is demonstrative. He has served 27 years in prison for murder, twice or three times the norm, and is now released because the Crown has accepted that his appeal is "highly likely" to succeed. If the test for release were made positive, only substantive evidence of dangerousness would count. Simple non-attendance at behaviour modification courses or refusal to express remorse would not count unless there were other evidence that the prisoner was dangerous. The Article provides for the Commissioners to re-assess a case where they have refused release, every two years. This is a sensible and humane period of time. Article 7 The power of the Secretary of State to release a prisoner on compassionate grounds is retained, though he or she must consult the Commissioners if practicable. There seems no clear reason why this power is given to the Secretary of State rather than, say, to the Chair of the Commissioners. Article 8 Licences and Conditions Article 8 provides that licences shall last until death. In respect of conditions that may be attached to a licence, the Secretary of State is given the duty of making rules about them - a draft has not been provided so far. However, it is up to the Commissioners to recommend conditions and this is binding on the Secretary of State. It appears from paragraph (3) that any cancellation or variation of conditions will have to be referred back to the Commissioners. We think that is probably right, so long as the Commissioners are able to be flexible and take quick decisions. There are a number of important issues with regard to life licence conditions that can only be discussed in detail in the context of a draft of the relevant Rules. A few points may be made. Conditions must be proportionate and not just piled on in an illusory pursuit of nil risk. The role of supervision by the Probation Service must be carefully discussed and only invoked where the relevant professional skills are needed. In so far as conditions are related to reintegration into society, they should be facilitative rather than restrictive. The most important point here is, however, that the draft Order does not directly relate any breach of conditions to the revocation of licence. One may assume that such breach might be part of the evidence adduced, but the link is not made explicit. Again, the Rules on conditions should make it clear which might lead to revocation of the licence if breached. Article 9 Revocation and Recall The Commissioners may recommend that a prisoner's licence be revoked and he or she be recalled to prison. The Secretary of State must carry that out and may also exercise the right him or herself if s/he feels it is "expedient" to do so before a recommendation from the Commissioners is practicable. The Commissioners must hear the case of such a prisoner basically as if it were a new case referred to them. So, even though they will have already recommended revocation of the licence and recall, they must then sit down and hear the case in a quasi-judicial capacity. This is a somewhat odd situation but is perhaps sensible in practice. It is, however, completely unacceptable that the draft Order contains no formulation of the grounds on which a licence might be revoked. The assumption must be that evidence has been produced which gives rise to a grounded apprehension of serious risk to the public. That should, however, be made clear. Apart from a few instances, revocation of life licences has only generally occurred in Northern Ireland where a person has committed further, relatively serious offences. The Order, or the Rules, should make clear the grounds on which revocation can be recommended and confirmed and the level of seriousness of further offences that might be considered. As this section stands it is offensive to the principle of liberty of the subject. Articles 10 to 13 Article 10 extends the release system to transferred lifers (sentenced in other jurisdictions and transferred to serve their sentences in Northern Ireland) with the exception of "restricted transferees" whose release remains the responsibility of the sending jurisdiction. Articles 11 and 12 extend the system to existing lifers and licensees and Article 13 deals with consequent amendments. None of these Articles raises any substantive issue. CONCLUSION The Order marks a major step forward. In responding to the necessity to put a system of due process around the decision on the length of indeterminate sentences, the Government has proposed building on a specific Northern Ireland experience. Whatever one thinks about the process of prisoner release, the Sentence Review Commissioners have carried it through in a professional, objective and, above all, independent manner. A system based on their operations, and, in the transition period even using some of the existing Commissioners, for life sentence review makes all kinds of sense. The scheme is marred by the Secretary of State unnecessarily retaining some powers, some serious deficiencies in process and by the nature of the test for release. It is also unacceptable that the Order does not spell out in more detail the grounds for recall and revocation of licence. There is therefore some need for amendment and detailed discussion of this Order, though its main direction is positive in that it provides an independent tribunal to take decisions which have hitherto been taken by a politician. PAT CONWAY WRITTEN SUBMISSION BY: 1. The Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission welcomes the proposed draft Life Sentences (NI) Order because it attempts to bring the law on the release of life sentenced prisoners in Northern Ireland into line with the requirements of the European Convention on Human Rights, which is part of the law of Northern Ireland by virtue of the Human Rights Act 1998. The Commission offers the following advice to the Northern Ireland Assembly's Ad Hoc Committee on further adjustments which could be made to the Order in order to copper-fasten its compliance with the European Convention. These comments are intended to be provisional only: they do not necessarily represent the Commission's final views. These will be transmitted to the Northern Ireland Office prior to the deadline of 15 March 2001. 2. Article 3(4) of the Order specifies the matters which the Life Sentence Review Commissioners must have regard to when discharging their functions under the Order. We recommend that a paragraph (c) should be added requiring the Commissioners to have regard to "the Convention rights of life prisoners". 3. Article 5(4) confers a discretion on the Secretary of State to direct at an appropriate stage that the early release provisions shall apply to an offender in respect of whom the court has decided under Article 5(3) not to apply the provisions. We recommend that this discretion be replaced with a duty, as in the case under Article 5(5) in respect of offenders who were aged under 18 when they committed the offence in question. To distinguish between offenders on the basis of their age in this regard is unjustifiable in law and would be difficult to justify under section 75 of the Northern Ireland Act 1998 (which requires designated public authorities - including the Northern Ireland Office - to promote equality of opportunity regardless of age). 4. Articles 5(4) and 5(5) suggest that it is the Secretary of State who would specify the part of the sentence which must be served before the early release provisions would apply to the prisoners in question. The Human Rights Commission finds it objectionable that a Government Minister should have the power to specify this period, especially as the Order gives no guidance on how the length of the period should be determined (there is no equivalent in this context to Article 5(2), which provides guidance to courts when specifying such a period). We recommend that such guidance be included in a new paragraph to be inserted immediately after the current Article 5(5). 5. Article 5(6) defines the phrase "appropriate stage" for the purposes of Articles 5 (4) and 5(5). The Commission finds this definition much too subjective. It is possible that the European Court of Human Rights would not accept (a) that a Government Minister should be empowered to take such decisions relating to the punishment of an offender and (b) that the decision can be so subjectively based. At the very least the word "reasonably" should be inserted before the word "determined" in line 3 of Article 5(6). 6. Article 6(4) requires the Life Sentence Review Commissioners, before directing a life prisoner's release, to be "satisfied that it is no longer necessary for the protection of the public from serious harm that the prisoner should be confined". Again the Human Rights Commission finds this provision too vague. It does not specify to which degree the Commissioners must be "satisfied" - beyond a reasonable doubt, on the balance of probabilities or in accordance with some other standard? Is it sensible to apply the same standard no matter how much time has elapsed since the release of the prisoner? Nor does the Order define what is meant in Article 6(4) by "serious harm"; and must it be the case that it is serious harm "to the public" which is in question - what if a particular person would be at risk of serious harm from the offender (e.g. a person who testified against the offender at his or her trial)? Surely that would often be enough to justify not releasing the prisoner? 7. Article 6(4) does not require the Life Sentence Review Commissioners to have any regard whatsoever to the views of the victims of the prisoner, or to the views of the family of the victim if he or she is dead. The Human Rights Commission by no means wants to suggest that the views of such persons should be determinative of whether the life prisoner is given early release or not, but international human rights standards are increasingly saying that victims must be allowed to express their views to courts - and at the very least to be informed about decisions such as the early release of offenders. 8. Article 8(1) of the Order says that when a prisoner is released on licence the licence shall remain in force until the prisoner's death. This is a particularly harsh provision, one which is not mirrored in many other countries. It means that it is impossible for a life prisoner to wipe the slate completely clean even though he or she may have served a lengthy prison sentence and be a completely reformed character. There is an argument for saying that the force of a licence should at least diminish as a released prisoner's life progresses, so that recall to prison becomes more difficult to justify as the released prisoner gets older. It may be sensible to provide that once a specified number of years have elapsed since the person's release the licence automatically lapses. 9. Article 8(2) provides that a released life prisoner's licence can be subjected to conditions but it does not specify what kind of conditions can be imposed. Some conditions would clearly be unreasonable - e.g. that the released prisoner must always live in a certain area or that he or she should never be granted a passport. The Order should specify that conditions cannot be imposed which breach a released prisoner's Convention rights (allowing for the fact that the European Court may well accept that some of these rights can to some extent be qualified in the case of released life prisoners). 10. Article 9 (1) of the Order allows the Life Sentence Review Commissioners to recommend the recall of a released life prisoner. But it does not specify what standard of proof the Commissioners should adopt before making such a recommendation or what factors the Commissioners should take into account before doing so. This is a serious flaw in the legislation. It is not clear, for example, whether the breach of any condition imposed on a released life prisoner, however trivial the breach, would automatically justify a recommended recall by the Commissioners. 11. Article 9(2) allows the Secretary of State to recall a released life prisoner to prison without first consulting the Life Sentence Review Commissioners. The Human Rights Commission fails to understand why it is necessary to confer such a power at all on a Government Minister: should not all recalls have to be preceded by a recommendation from the Life Sentence Review Commissioners? It is difficult to imagine a case arising in such urgent circumstances that a view from the Commissioners cannot first be sought. 12. The test for recall by the Secretary of State under Article 9(2) is "where it appears to him that it is expedient in the public interest to recall that person". This is a very vague test indeed. If this power of recall is to be retained at all, the word "expedient" should be replaced by "necessary" and the phrase "in the public interest" should be replaced by "to protect the public from serious harm". 13. Article 9(4) says that the Secretary of State shall refer the case of a recalled life prisoner to the Life Sentence Review Commissioners but it does not say when this must be done. The Human Rights Commission recommends that the phrase "as soon as possible" be inserted after the word "shall" in line 1 of Article 9(4). 14. Articles 10(1) and 10(2) suggest that it is the Secretary of State who would specify the part of the sentence which must be served before the early release provisions would apply to the prisoners in question. As stated in para. 4 above, the Human Rights Commission finds it objectionable that a Government Minister should have the power to specify this period, especially as the Order gives no guidance on how the length of this period should be determined (there is no equivalent in this context to Article 5(2), which provides guidance to courts when specifying such a period). We recommend that such guidance be included in a new paragraph to be inserted immediately after the current Article 10(2). 15. Article 10(4)(a) partly defines a transferred life prisoner as "a person on whom a court in a country or territory outside Northern Ireland has imposed one or more sentences of imprisonment or detention for an indeterminate period". It is unclear to the Human Rights Commission whether this is intended to embrace persons on whom a life sentence has been imposed. If it is, the wording could be more precise. If it is not, why not? 16. Articles 11(1) and 11(2) again suggest that it is the Secretary of State who would specify the part of the sentence which must be served before the early release provisions would apply to the prisoners in question. For the reasons given at paras. 4 and 14 above, the Human Rights Commission has doubts about this method of proceeding. 17. The proposed Life Sentence Commissioners' Rules 2001 refer throughout to the Chairman of the Panel but they appear to make no provision for the appointment of such a person (in particular Rule 3 does not seem to do so). The Human Rights Commission does not believe that the Chair of the Panel should have the powers specified in the Rules: they should all be exercised by the Panel acting collectively (or by majority if necessary). 18. Rule 9 of the proposed Life Sentence Commissioners' Rules 2001 deals with the location and privacy of hearings. The Human Rights Commission recommends that a new paragraph be inserted saying that the Human Rights Commission will be permitted to observe any hearing if the prisoner requests this. This would help the Commission to fulfil its statutory role as the promoter and protector of the human rights of everyone in Northern Ireland. 19. Rule 9(2) provides that the hearings shall be held in private unless the Chairman of the Panel otherwise directs. The Human Rights Commission recommends that this should be reworded to read that the hearings shall be held in public unless the Panel otherwise directs in accordance with Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights. 20. Rule 11(4)(2) [there may a misprint in the numbering system here] does not impose any time limits on the Chair of the Panel in relation to either (a) or (b). The Human Rights Commission believes such limits should be imposed in order to add certainty and celerity to the whole process (as required by Article 6 of the European Convention). 21. The Commission has the gravest of doubts about the compatibility of Rules 15 and 16 of the proposed Life Sentence Commissioners' Rules 2001, which deal with the non-disclosure of confidential information and the appointment of "special advocates" to represent the interests of the prisoner. We believe that the special advocate procedure may well be in breach of Article 6 of the European Convention on Human rights (the fair hearing provision) because Rule 16(3) prohibits a special advocate from communicating directly or indirectly with the very prisoner he or she has been appointed to represent! [There appears to be a misprint in para. 16(3): it should cross-refer to para. 16(4), not 16(5).] PROFESSOR BRICE DICKSON SUPPLEMENTARY WRITTEN SUBMISSION BY: RE: EXTRA INFORMATION FOR THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE Unfortunately it was not possible for the Human Rights Commission to provide in time the two further pieces of information which I said at the Committee session on 5 February we would try to provide. First, the Commission was not able to discuss further the respects in which victims' views could be taken into account when life prisoners are being considered for release. Although this was on our agenda for a meeting on 12 February, we had so much else to discuss that day that we did not reach that item. Second, in the time available and with our limited resources we were not able to obtain information for the Committee about the law on life prisoners in the Republic of Ireland. No doubt when the Irish Human Rights Commission is fully operational (within the next month or so) it will be able to provide information about Irish law to any Assembly Committee which requests it. I am sorry the Commission was not able to be more forthcoming but I hope the Committee will understand our difficulties. PROFESSOR BRICE DICKSON WRITTEN SUBMISSION BY: DRAFT PROPOSALS FOR A LIFE SENTENCES (NI) ORDER 2001 Thank you for your letter of 5 February to Heather Hayes, inviting Dr Reid or a senior official from the Northern Ireland Office to appear before the Committee to explain the background to the draft proposals. The Secretary of State has asked that I reply on his behalf. The Secretary of State is unfortunately unable to accept the Committee's invitation due to pre-existing diary commitments. He is aware that the Committee are in possession of all the documents, relating to the Life Sentences (NI) Order 2001, laid before Parliament on 15 January but appreciates that there may be some points of detail on which the Committee would like clarification. In view of the time constraints within which the Committee are working he would therefore be happy for his officials to respond quickly to any written questions the Committee may have on the draft proposed Order. The Committee may wish to direct any queries to either Mr Douglas Bain, Director of Services at the headquarters of the NI Prison Service, Dundonald House, Belfast BT4 3SX, or to his Deputy Director, Mr Tom Haire. P G PRIESTLY WRITTEN SUBMISSION BY: 1. Probation Board for Northern Ireland (PBNI) is a non-departmental public body accountable to the Secretary of State. The Probation Board was established by the Probation Board (Northern Ireland) Order 1982. Under Article 4 of that order the Board shall: a. Secure the maintenance of an adequate and proficient Probation Service. b. Secure that arrangements are made for persons to perform work under Community Service Orders. c. Provide such probation officers and other staff as the Secretary of State considers necessary to perform social welfare duties in prisons and young offenders' centres; and d. Undertake such other duties as may be prescribed. 2. The Board may, with the approval of the Secretary of State, also make and give effect to schemes for the supervision and assistance of offenders and the prevention of crime. 3. Prior to 1982 the Probation Service was a part of the Civil Service within the Ministry of Home Affairs and the Northern Ireland Office. 4. The Probation Board covers the whole of Northern Ireland with area teams based at 11 locations and with additional district offices from which service is provided. 5. Probation Board also has teams working in the two prisons, Maghaberry and Magilligan and the Young Offenders Centre at Hydebank. 6. Main services of the Probation Board are:
7. An important duty is also the post-release supervision of certain categories of persons sentenced to imprisonment.
(Currently the Probation Board can provide supervision as part of the Licence arrangements whereby a life sentence prisoner or prisoner sentenced at Secretary of State's pleasure is released into the community. This authority emanates from the Prison Act (Northern Ireland) 1953 and the Article 46 of the Criminal Justice (Children) (NI) Order 1998. 8. Under present arrangements Probation Board staff are involved with life sentence prisoners and young persons sentenced at Secretary of State's pleasure at four stages. (i) Work with life sentence prisoners and/or their families from start of sentence until their review by the Life Sentence Review Board. (ii) Preparation of probation reports to the Life Sentence Review Board. (iii) Work with these prisoners on preparation for release. (iv) Supervision and support of released prisoners. Probation staff provide reports to the life sentence unit on those persons released on licence and under supervision. 9. We work in association with the Northern Ireland Prison Service, to provide a range of resettlement opportunities in prison which integrate with community supervision. 10. The Probation Board for Northern Ireland as a public body is accountable to the Government, the Courts and the Community. We aim to carry out all our responsibilities in a manner which contributes to public protection and which enhances the well-being of the communities in which we work. PROBATION BOARD RESPONSE TO CRIMINAL JUSTICE REVIEW 11. The Review of the Criminal Justice System in Northern Ireland published in March 2000, included consideration of the arrangements for the release of life sentence prisoners and of young persons 'held at the Secretary of State's pleasure'. 12. The Probation Board shared its opinions with the Review Group during the course of its deliberations and also after publication. 13. The PBNI supported the idea of an independent body that should take over all the work of the Life Sentence Review Board. 14. We also endorsed the idea that the whole process and not just retribution and deterrence should be judicially grounded. The board emphatically endorsed a move away from the old Life Sentence Review Board system. As an alternative the model of the Sentence Review Commission was viewed as much more appropriate. However, it was created in a particular set of circumstances and the Probation Board felt that, while recognising the significant reforms proposed, the review should go further in developing a new model with the principles laid out in a positive and expansive manner, rather than a minimalist conformity to human rights and European Court requirements. 15. The PBNI therefore sought a model with the following elements:
LIFE SENTENCES (NORTHERN IRELAND) ORDER 2001-RESPONSE 16. PBNI welcomes the introduction of a new system for the release of young persons sentenced at the Secretary of State's pleasure and adults sentenced to life imprisonment. It makes sense to us that the new system will replace the Life Sentence Review Board in being able to deal with cases of all three categories of indeterminate sentence, viz: a. Those sentenced at Secretary of State's pleasure. b. Those prisoners on discretionary life sentences. c. Those prisoners with mandatory life sentences. 17. It is PBNI's view that visibility, openness, accessibility and accountability are essential elements of any new system. The Board acknowledges their incorporation within the order. 18. The Board's preference is for a system that is judicially grounded with regard to the four dimensions: (i) retribution (ii) deterrence (iii) risk (iv) rehabilitation. 19. The new system caters for retribution and deterrence at the sentencing stage. The judges will be asked to set a period of custodial time to be served in order to meet the necessary punishment/deterrence for the offence. (Article 5). 20. After the stated tariff time has been served, consideration can be given to the nature of the risk and in what circumstances the prisoner might be released. This role will be undertaken by a body of Commissioners which is judicially grounded through being independent and having at least one member holding judicial office. 21. These Commissioners will be able to allow the prisoner and his representative to be present. This is a successful component of the Sentence Review Commission experience and we welcome its inclusion here within the new order. 22. Openness is catered for in the section that allows for a prisoner to have access to the reports that are supplied to the decision makers. There may be some situations in which consideration needs to be given as to whether some information within reports or reports themselves be withheld from the prisoner. A decision on this can be made by the Commissioners in individual cases. It is PBNI policy to share reports with the prisoner where possible. (The Life Sentence Commissioners' Rules 2001). 23. Accountability is evidenced by the separation of agencies and staff who are providing reports, information, assessment or opinions in relation to possible release from those persons who are acting as Commissioners - a decision making function. 24. The Probation Board emphasises the knowledge skills and competence that its staff have gained and continue to develop in respect of providing quality assessments and risk management plans in relation to persons who have committed serious violent offences . This is a body of knowledge and expertise that we clearly feel should be recognised by and represented among Commissioners. It is facilitated in Part 2 of the Order Article 3 (d) and (e), which state that, "at least one person appearing to the Secretary of State should have knowledge and experience of the supervision or after care of discharged prisoners and (e) at least one person appearing to the Secretary of State to have made a study of the causes of delinquency or the treatment of offenders." 25. However in keeping with the principles outlined in our model we accept that decision makers should not include members of the staff of the Probation Board or indeed of the Prison Service or related civil servants. We recognise that this will cause difficulties in a region such as Northern Ireland as it will exclude many of those with the expertise to assist in decision making. It can be alleviated by the quality of the information provided. However, it could also be mitigated through interchanges with England and Wales, Scotland or the Republic of Ireland. 26. As another element in our model we had sought authority for release decisions to be vested in the Commissioners. This is facilitated in Article 6. PROBATION ROLE IN THE NEW ARRANGEMENTS 27. The new Order would enable Probation Board staff to continue to undertake duties currently carried out in relation to life sentence prisoners (refer to para.7 above). Probation Officers will be empowered to prepare reports for the Commissioners. The elements of such a report can include an assessment of the risk of reoffending, a programme of supervision and recommendations regarding any special licence conditions where these are relevant to a particular case. (The Life Sentence Commissioners' Rules 2001 Schedule 1 Part B). 28. During the period of imprisonment the Board would be in a position, through partnership with the Prison Service, to contribute to the assessment of risk and to the provision of individual and group programmes. 29. Where a supervisory element is part of post-release licence, we will have the opportunity to put forward a plan of how the prisoner could be managed within the community. 30. As part of the supervisory function of a life licensee in the community we would prepare Progress Reports and would work to standards of practice to be agreed with the Secretary of State. 31. If, during the supervision of any life licence, we form the judgement that his/her behaviour is of such a nature that we consider that the individual is a danger to him/herself or to others, we would be able to ask for consideration to be given to the revocation of his/her licence. It is important that there is a procedure in place including a referral and response mechanism available to the supervising officer. 32. Accountability is achieved through the Commissioners being asked to consider the case either prior to, or on the individual's return to prison, depending on the urgency of the situation. Any report made by us would form part of the consideration given by the Commissioners, and we could be called upon to justify our opinion. (Article 9). 33. Although a Life Licence remains in force until death it is important that there is a means by which after a period of time the Probation Board can give its opinion that the supervisory element of the licence can be varied or cancelled. In most cases a Life Licensee will have achieved a level of stability in his/her new life in the community whereby supervision by a Probation Officer is no longer deemed necessary in order to protect the public from serious harm (Article 8 provides for this). Within prisons and post release the Probation role can be carried on within the context of an inter- disciplinary and inter-agency approach. BRENDAN FULTON SUPPLEMENTARY WRITTEN SUBMISSION BY: Further to our written submission and our oral responses to the Ad Hoc Committee, I am pleased to provide the following information. Our information indicates that there have been a total of 33 prisoners released on supervised Life Licence, under the system in Northern Ireland over the past 20 years. This figure includes person/s 'sentenced at the Secretary of State's pleasure'. Five of these released prisoners had their Life Licence revoked while under supervision of the Probation Service in Northern Ireland. Two further persons had their Licence revoked after the supervision element of their Licence had been cancelled. Those persons whose Life Licence was revoked while on supervision, were in the community on average 2 years - the range being from 4 months to 5 years 5 months. Those persons whose Life Licences were revoked after cancellation of the supervision element, were in the community between 4 years 3 months and 6 years 5 months. (The supervision aspect in these cases lasted from 3 years to 5 years). BRENDAN FULTON WRITTEN SUBMISSION BY: 1. The general direction of this Order is in line with the prevailing situation in the rest of Europe and current developments in the rest of the United Kingdom. In nearly all other European countries murder does not attract a mandatory life sentence. More usually prisoners are given a determinate sentence. Even when a life sentence is provided for, decisions as to whether and when a prisoner is released are matters for the judiciary rather than the Executive. This reflects a general view that matters regarding the deprivation of liberty should be decided on by independent and impartial judges, operating on the basis of clear criteria. To leave such matters in the hands of politicians is always to risk arbitrariness and decisions being prey to prevailing public opinion. Research on the operation of the life sentence release process in England (notably Justice Sentenced to Life , 1996) has confirmed this impression. It is noteworthy that legislation has recently been introduced in Scotland which will remove the discretion of the Justice Minister. In England the power of the Home Secretary to decide on the tariff, preserved by Section 29 of the Crime (Sentences) Act 1997 is currently under challenge in the Court of Appeal in R v Secretary of State for the Home Department ex parte Anderson and Taylor 2. The need to comply with the provisions of the Human Rights Act also argue for a move towards the sort of regime envisaged in this Order. In the case of Thynne, Wilson and Gunnell v United Kingdom (1991) the European Court indicated that decisions on whether discretionary life sentence prisoners remained a risk after they had served the normal sentence for the crime they were convicted of was the sort of decision which should be subject to judicial supervision to comply fully with Article 5(4) of the European Convention on Human Rights. In V and T v United Kingdom (1999) the same Court indicated that the process of setting a "tariff" for HMP prisoners (SOSp equivalents in England) in respect of how long they should serve before being considered for parole, was essentially a judicial exercise. Article 6(1) of the Convention hence required that this exercise be conducted by an independent and impartial judicial officer. Although Northern Ireland did not formally operate a system of dividing sentences into "tariff" and "risk" phases it is clear that the old Life Sentence Review Board was relying on similar concepts. This clearly rendered them vulnerable in relation to discretionary lifers and SOSp prisoners. After V and T it seemed that the previous 1994 decision of Wynne v United Kingdom (which saw no need for judicial involvement in the release of mandatory lifers) was unlikely to be sustained in future. Hence the release procedures for mandatory life sentence prisoners was also vulnerable to Human Rights Act challenge. The NIO is to be commended for anticipating this and seeking to change the legislation. 3. Overall therefore this legislation, especially by reducing the role of the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland and establishing a specific body of Life Sentence Review Commissioners, moves in the right direction as regards Human Rights Act compliance. It also moves in the direction of the approach to release adopted in other European countries. However there are some matters of detail where clarification or change may be appropriate. 4. Article 3(4)(ii) directs the Commissioners to have regard to the desirability of (a) preventing commission by life prisoners of further offences and (b) securing the rehabilitation of offenders when "discharging any functions" under the Order. However this would seem to lead to some confusion with the Commissioners' power under Article 6(4)(b) to release prisoners providing they are satisfied that it is no longer necessary for the protection of the public. It seems to add extra criteria beyond those set out in Article 6(4)(b) and criteria which are uncertain. For example would this lead to life sentence prisoners being detained if Commissioners feel they are likely to commit traffic offences or minor drugs offences but unlikely to put the public at risk? How would the issue of rehabilitation be treated? Some Commissioners might feel a person's chances of rehabilitation are improved by getting out of prison, others might feel a longer spell inside would be more helpful. These criteria appear in Section 32(6)(b) of the Criminal Justice Act 1991 in England but only in relation to what directions the Secretary of State might give the Parole Board as opposed to the Board's own powers. They are unnecessary and confusing in the way they are proposed in this Order and it would be better to delete them. 5. Article 5(3) seems to preserve the possibility of "whole life" tariffs. The Home Secretary's power in England to set "whole life" tariffs was upheld by the House of Lords in Ex parte Hindley (2000). However such a power seems at variance with Article 10(3) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights which indicates that "The penitentiary system shall comprise treatment of prisoners the essential aim of which shall be their reformation and social rehabilitation". Whole life tariffs offer little hope of rehabilitation for any prisoner. 6. Article 5(5) appears to preserve the possibility of a whole life tariff even in respect of SOSp prisoners. This would clearly run into problems with Article 3 of the European Convention as the Court in Hussain v United Kingdom (1996) indicated a view that whole life tariffs for juveniles would raise serious questions in respect of amounting to inhuman or degrading punishment. Providing in Article 5(6) that the Secretary of State should refer the case to the Commissioners when he has formed the opinion that it is appropriate to do so is not an adequate safeguard, he or she may conclude that it is never appropriate to do so. 7. Overall Article 5 is not clearly expressed. It would appear that the aim of Article 5(1) is that in all cases judges should set a tariff but that in cases where they feel a whole life tariff is appropriate they can direct that it is not employed. However one could read Article 5(3) as suggesting that in such cases courts should not set a tariff, in which case there is no direction to take effect in respect of Article 5(4) and 5(5). Also Article 5(4) appears to envisage the Secretary of State deciding not to refer a prisoner to the Commissioners even after he or she has decided that it is appropriate to make such a reference. It is difficult to see why this should be so. 8. The criteria for early release in Article 6(4)(b) require a prisoner to establish that he or she is not at risk of causing serious harm to the public. There is evidence from studies of Discretionary Lifer Panels in England that this has encouraged a very cautious approach to release. Arguably full respect for the right to liberty might require the onus being on the authorities to satisfy the Commissioners that someone does pose a risk of serious harm to the public. 9. Article 6(5)(b) envisages prisoners being able to refer cases back to the Commission after two years from the refusal of a previous release application. There is some indication from the European Court that 2 years may be too long to comply with Article 5(4) and that a shorter period might be envisaged, see Oldham v United Kingdom (2000). 10. Article 9(2) permits recall by the Secretary of State where "it appears expedient in the public interest to recall that person". Although presumably taken from equivalent English legislation, this envisages a different test being applied by the Secretary of State as regards recall than that applied by the Board under Article 6(4)(b) when deciding on release. At the very least there is a need for the Secretary of State, as in England, to make directions as to when this power may be used. However it does not appear that the Order gives him or her power to do this. 11. Schedule 1 makes it clear that Commissioners will be appointed by the Secretary of State. While this is not automatically contrary to Article 6 of the ECHR there is a need to offer "sufficient safeguards" of the independence of those appointed. An obvious way of doing this is to set out their tenure (perhaps for 5 years). However the Schedule currently gives no indication as to how long they might be appointed for. 12. Article 3 of Schedule 2 and Rule 15 of the Commissioners Rules envisage the Secretary of State certifying that certain information should not be disclosed to the prisoner or to his or her representative. The European Court has indicated concern as to whether the "equality of arms" requirement of Article 6 can be complied with in such situations of non-disclosure (Tinnelly v United Kingdom 1996, Fitt and Jasper v United Kingdom 2000). While the provision for a "Special Advocate" in Rule 17 may go some way towards complying with Article 6 (a majority in Jasper appeared inclined to this view) there remains the problem that the initial certification by the Secretary of State appears to be beyond review. To ensure compliance with Article 6 it might be better if the Commissioners were entitled to decide upon the issue of whether such material should be certified confidential, in the light of representations by the Secretary of State and the prisoner's representatives. 13. The English provisions on release of discretionary lifers and recall of mandatory lifers provide for guidance to be given to the Parole Board on how they exercise their discretion regarding risk assessment for release. While some doubts have been expressed as to how valuable these are and also to what extent they are used, it would seem useful to offer Commissioners some guidance in dealing with a difficult question. It might also be helpful to prisoners to see the sort of criteria that might be employed by the Commissioners. At the moment however no guidance appears in the Order or the Rules, nor is there power for the Secretary of State to issue the same. Although there may be doubts as to whether it is appropriate for the Secretary of State to be issuing guidance it might be helpful to allow the Commission to consult on and publish the guidance it is seeking to act upon. PROFESSOR STEPHEN LIVINGSTONE WRITTEN SUBMISSION BY: I am writing to let you know that on this occasion the Society does not propose to accept the Committee's invitation to attend and/or submit evidence. The relevant Committee within the Society has noted the contents of the proposed Order. Our preliminary assessment is that this is not an exercise to which we can add significant value. The principal policy underpinning the draft Order has arisen from a recommendation made as part of the Criminal Justice Review. The Society has expressed no opinion on that particular recommendation. It is possible that we may be providing some limited comments in due course to the Secretary of State on some of the more technical aspects of the proposed Order and Rules. If you think this would be helpful, I should be happy to arrange to let you have a copy of any such comments in due course, although I anticipate that these comments will not be available until early to mid-March. Although, for the reasons I have given, we are not able to assist the Committee in any substantive way on this occasion, as a general rule, we are keen to be available to the Assembly and Committees to assist on any issues where we can provide a distinctive professional perspective based on the experience and expertise of solicitors. In this connection, should there be any specific questions or matters arising from the draft Order on which the Committee thinks we could be of some assistance, I should be happy to deal with these on request. Thank you for recognising our potential interests in this draft legislation. JOHN BAILIE |
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