COMMITTEE OF THE CENTRE
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS:
WEDNESDAY 8 MAY 2002
IN THE SENATE CHAMBER AND ROOM 144, PARLIAMENT BUILDINGS
Present:
Mr Edwin Poots MLA (Chairperson)
Mr Oliver Gibson MLA (Deputy Chairperson)
Mr Roy Beggs Jnr MLA
Mrs Eileen Bell MLA
Mrs Annie Courtney MLA
Mr Danny Kennedy MLA
Dr Alasdair McDonnell MLA
Mr Barry McElduff MLA
Mr Eugene McMenamin MLA
Mr Alex Maskey MLA
Mr Conor Murphy MLA
Mr Ken Robinson MLA
Mr Jim Shannon MLA
Apologies:
Ms Patricia Lewsley MLA
In Attendance:
Mr Hugh Farren (Committee Clerk)
Ms Stella McArdle (Committee Clerk)
Mrs Gillian Lewis
Ms Victoria Surplus
Ms Pauline Innes
Ms Laurie Roberts
The meeting opened at 11.05am in the Senate Chamber in public session. The Deputy Chairperson in the Chair.
1.Apologies
Apologies are listed above.
Dr McDonnell joined the meeting at 11.07am.
Mrs Bell joined the meeting at 11.08am.
Mr McElduff joined the meeting at 11.10am.
Mr Kennedy joined the meeting at 11.10am.
2.Review of Public Administration
Ministerial Evidence
The evidence session began at 11.10am. Evidence on the forthcoming Review of Public Administration and the revised Terms of Reference for the Review was taken from the First Minister, Rt. Hon David Trimble, MP, MLA, and Deputy First Minister, Mr Mark Durkan.
Mr Robinson joined the meeting at 11.12am.
The Chairperson joined the meeting at 11.17am and took the Chair.
Mrs Courtney and Mr McMenamin left the meeting at11.54am.
Dr McDonnell left the meeting at 11.55am.
The First Minister and Deputy First Minister left the meeting at 12.40pm.
The meeting went into recess at 12.41pm.
The meeting resumed in Room 144 at 2.07pm.
3.Chairperson's Business
The Chairperson reminded members of the major economic initiative announced by the First Minister and Deputy First Minister and the subsequent debate in the Assembly on Tuesday, 7 May 2002. Members agreed to invite the First Minister and Deputy First Minister to brief the Committee on the detail of the initiative and the way in which it will be scrutinised.
Action: Clerk
4.Approval of draft minutes
The minutes from the previous meeting held on 8 May 2002 were agreed and signed by the Chairperson.
5.Matters arising
- Programme for USA Visit: Members considered and agreed the Washington programme for the Committee visit to the USA. The details of the visit to Boston will be forwarded to members as soon as it becomes available.
- EU Affairs Sub-Committee: Members considered the Clerk's paper about the EU Affairs Sub-Committee. The nominations are:
Action: Clerk
Mr E Poots DUP
Mr K RobinsonUUP
Dr A McDonnellSDLP
Mr B McElduffSF
Mrs E BellAlliance
Mr D ErvinePUP
The Committee then considered several options for the selection of a Convenor. Members agreed that in the interest of continuity the Chairperson of the Committee should also be the Convenor of the Sub-Committee. It was further agreed that the first meeting of the Sub-Committee would take place on Tuesday, 28 May 2002.
Action: Clerk
6.Correspondence
(a)The Second Annual Report of the Equality Commission for the year ended 31 March 2001: Members noted the Report.
(b)Letter from the Employment and Learning Committee regarding the consultation document 'Essential Skills for Living' Strategy: The Committee considered the issues raised in the strategy and agreed that the response to the Employment and Learning Committee should highlight the underachievement of young Protestant males in working class urban areas as well as issues such as New TSN, Equality and Gender. The rural/urban divide would also be raised.
Action: Clerk
(c)Copy of letter from the Environment Committee to the First Minister and Deputy First Minister about the proposed Terms of Reference for the Review of Public Administration: Members noted the letter.
Mrs Bell rejoined the meeting at 2.15pm.
(d)OFMDFM response to the Committee's request for an update on the progress with its work on Freedom of Information: The Committee considered the update and noted with concern that individual right of access will not be implemented until January 2005.
- Letter from OFMDFM enclosing a confidential copy of the Working Group Review of Public Private Partnerships: Members noted the report and that it should remain confidential within the Committee until it goes out to public consultation, after which members agreed to take briefing from officials on issues arising in the consultation.
- Letter from OFMDFM regarding Emergency Planning provisions in relation to Belfast City Airport: Members noted the correspondence and requested confirmation that the recent extension of the Airport and the subsequent frequency of flights had been taken into consideration when the emergency planning provisions had been drawn up.
- Letter from Belfast City Council regarding Emergency Planning provisions: Belfast City Airport: Members noted the correspondence.
- Press Notice from the Civic Forum about the publication of its report entitled 'Educational Disadvantage: A Civic Discussion': Members noted the press notice and asked for a copy of the forward work programme for the Civic Forum.
- Information on EU issues: Members noted the information relating to EU issues, including the announcement by the Scottish Parliament's EU Committee about its new Inquiry on Europe's Employment Strategy and Corporate Social Responsibility: An Inquiry into the Scottish Model.
Action: Clerk
Action: Clerk
Action: Clerk
7.Women's Issues
Briefing by OFMDFM Officials
The briefing session began at 2.30pm. Briefing was taken from Dr Gerry Mulligan, Head of Equality and Social Need Division, Mrs Hilary Harbison, Head of Gender Policy Unit and Ms Pauline Millar, staff member of Gender Policy Unit. This involved briefing on women's issues and funding for Women's Centres.
Mr McMenamin rejoined the meeting at 2.32pm.
Mr Shannon joined the meeting at 2.33pm.
Dr McDonnell rejoined the meeting at 2.47pm.
Mr Robinson left the meeting at 2.47pm.
Officials agreed to provide information as to which department(s) have legislative provision to fund women's groups, which department has lead responsibility and which department or body provides funding for groups in rural towns such as Ballymena and Downpatrick. Officials also informed the Committee that a position paper making recommendations for groups most in need would be forwarded to the members at a later date.
Action: Clerk
The officials left the meeting at.3.02pm.
Mrs Bell left the meeting at 3.04pm.
Mr Maskey left the meeting at 3.04pm.
8.Departmental Position Paper
The briefing session began at 3.05pm. Briefing on the bid for the refurbishment of the Louvain Institute for Ireland in Europe was taken from Mr Murray Cameron, Head of Public Service Improvement Unit, European Policy and Co-ordination Unit, and Freedom of Information Unit of OFMDFM.
Mr McElduff left the meeting at 3.17pm.
Mr Cameron agreed to provide further information on the number of students and civil servants who had used the facilities at the Louvain Institute, and also a history of the Institute.
Action: Clerk
Dr McDonnell left the meeting at 3.17pm.
Mr Cameron left the meeting at 3.30pm.
Consideration of Committee's Response to the Departmental Position Paper
The Committee considered and agreed its response to the Departmental Position Paper subject to the amendments discussed and agreed at today's meeting.
Action: Clerk
9.Any other business
(a)Review of Public Administration: publication of evidence: Members agreed to publish the Minutes of Evidence of the meeting on the Review of Public Administration with Professor Colin Knox on Wednesday, 10 April 2002.
Action: Clerk
10.Date and time of next meeting
Members noted the potential difficulty in getting a quorum for the next meeting on Wednesday 15 May 2002.
Action: Clerk
The Chairperson adjourned the meeting at 3.39pm
COUNCILLOR EDWIN POOTS MLA
Chairperson, Committee of the Centre
29 May 2002